Bidet folks, ever run out of warm water?

[masraum]

We are thinking about getting a bidet. I've never seen anything other than rave reviews, many here.

We're looking at options, and notice that some have "instant-on" water heaters so you always have hot water, and some have small tanks so you could potentially run out of warm water.

We're curious to know if you've ever run out or if the tanks are more than adequate.

Thanks

[Crowbob]

Heve we run out of topics?

I was told we’d never run out of topics.

[stevej37]

Around here, we add anti-freeze to them.

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by Crowbob

Heve we run out of topics?

I was told we’d never run out of topics.

LOL .... only if we run out of Steves

[masraum]

Originally Posted by Crowbob

Heve we run out of topics?

I was told we’d never run out of topics.

We've actually had a bunch of threads about bidets. Having the water back there go from warm to icy seems like it could be shocking and unpleasant.

Originally Posted by stevej37

Around here, we add anti-freeze to them.

LOL! I hope your toilet/bathroom isn't THAT cold!

Originally Posted by KFC911

LOL .... only if we run out of Steves

Vash is or was the kind of unusual threads, although I do try to do my part. And there are a few of us Steves that work hard to keep things going in that regard.

[Zeke]

Bidets are impractical w/o hot water circulation. A bidet seat has the water ready at all times. They are programable as well so you can shut it off if everyone is at work or on vacation. My wife tells me the warm seat is a necessity. OK, whatever.

Bidet seats are not cheap but a separate bidet requires space and a lot of plumbing. I've installed some in remodels. PITA (replace "pain" with pleasure). No, really, very expensive to retrofit.

If the power is out you get nothing (remember for the seat you have to run electrical to behind the WC).

[Steve Carlton]

When it happens, you don’t need as much water.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Bidets are impractical w/o hot water circulation. A bidet seat has the water ready at all times. They are programable as well so you can shut it off if everyone is at work or on vacation. My wife tells me the warm seat is a necessity. OK, whatever.

Bidet seats are not cheap but a separate bidet requires space and a lot of plumbing. I've installed some in remodels. PITA (replace "pain" with pleasure). No, really, very expensive to retrofit.

If the power is out you get nothing (remember for the seat you have to run electrical to behind the WC).

We have power. We are talking about just an add-on seat. Most of the seats that have heated water seem to either have a small tank that they keep warm, or some have instant on hot water. I'm curious about the folks that have the tank style if they ever find themselves getting a shock because they've run through the hot water in the little tank. I've never used a bidet, and have no idea how things work in practice, the amount of water required, etc...

Originally Posted by Steve Carlton

When it happens, you don’t need as much water.

LOL! I don't doubt it!

[KFC911]

If it weren't for real Steves and Cliff this place would go to the bot ... tom .

How 'bout a simple, old skool back-up roll of freakin' Charmin?

Or have we gone that far .... yet ?

[NY65912]

We have a Toto bidet seat. Works great, all sorts of settings. Nice and fresh after use. TP is barbaric once you go bidet. No, never ran out of HW with the tank in the seat.

Get a TOTO you will be happy.

[stevej37]

Originally Posted by KFC911

If it weren't for real Steves and Cliff this place would go to the bot ... tom .

How 'bout a simple, old skool back-up roll of freakin' Charmin?

Or have we gone that far .... yet ?

.... or a good ole chamber pot with sears & roebuck catalog pages.

.

[LEAKYSEALS951]

Now, thanks to all of you, I'm searching google images of chamber pots. WTH?!?!?!?

[Zeke]

Steve, buy a Toto. That's the last word in these things. They are spendy but Toto USA does have a refurbish program that is rather affordable. Last I checked it was a full job for $125, shipping exclusive, but they send the box!

Which means you can buy refurbished or open box, both of which are sanitary. I've done that 2wice now (the first one we had so long that Toto removed if from the eligible list) and never had a worry. Kohler makes a decent one that comes in 2nd place. Not a thing wrong with a Kohler and they can cost less.

There is absolutely no potential for shock. You are required to use a GFCI anyway, even if an old house has a 2-wire system (they work under that circumstance).

My wife never turned off the heated seat for over 6 years. And that's not what failed. What happens with these is calcium build up on the little valves and they can start dripping. They drip right into the pool of water which is annoying. You can access the tank for a periodic vinegar treatment. Otherwise they are ToToally silent.

I have never used one that I can remember. If I did, that tells you my impression, but I'm sure it is a convenience you can get used to and probably take a liking to.

[stevej37]

[QUOTE=LEAKYSEALS951;12595414]Now, thanks to all of you, I'm searching google images of chamber pots. WTH?!?!?!?


It appears that she didn't do a good job of scrubbing hers out.

.

[Evans, Marv]

I gave one (Costco - don't remember the brand) to my wife for Christmas some years ago. She referred to it as "the best Christmas present ever." After a number of years, it died, & I replaced it with a Kohler. She liked the old one better, since the seat was always warm (apparently the Kohler seat warms up when sat on) and it had a blue light always illuminating the toilet bowl. I've never used it.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by NY65912

We have a Toto bidet seat. Works great, all sorts of settings. Nice and fresh after use. TP is barbaric once you go bidet. No, never ran out of HW with the tank in the seat.

Get a TOTO you will be happy.

That's what I'm looking at, a C5 (tank) which is the predecessor of the S5 (instant-on).

[masraum]

Originally Posted by LEAKYSEALS951

Now, thanks to all of you, I'm searching google images of chamber pots. WTH?!?!?!?

LOL! I have an aunt that has a couple (not like that though).

Originally Posted by Zeke

Steve, buy a Toto. That's the last word in these things. They are spendy but Toto USA does have a refurbish program that is rather affordable. Last I checked it was a full job for $125, shipping exclusive, but they send the box!

Which means you can buy refurbished or open box, both of which are sanitary. I've done that 2wice now (the first one we had so long that Toto removed if from the eligible list) and never had a worry. Kohler makes a decent one that comes in 2nd place. Not a thing wrong with a Kohler and they can cost less.

There is absolutely no potential for shock. You are required to use a GFCI anyway, even if an old house has a 2-wire system (they work under that circumstance).

My wife never turned off the heated seat for over 6 years. And that's not what failed. What happens with these is calcium build up on the little valves and they can start dripping. They drip right into the pool of water which is annoying. You can access the tank for a periodic vinegar treatment. Otherwise they are ToToally silent.

I have never used one that I can remember. If I did, that tells you my impression, but I'm sure it is a convenience you can get used to and probably take a liking to.

Right, by shock, I didn't mean electrical. I was talking about the spray going from warm to cold when/if the tank runs out. I didn't expect that to be an issue, but my wife wanted me to ask if the tank is adequate.

We have hardish water (is hard, but could be harder), so the ability to do a vinegar treatment is good to know. Also cool about the restoration and refurbished programs.

[Steve Carlton]

"Toto, I don't think we're in Kansas anymore."

[Zeke]

The tank seems adequate. I took the Toto apart thinking I could fix it. Really, now way and I'm good at that. The tank appeared as a kidney shape to hold at least a qt. But I'm not sure the whole tank is kept warm. I didn't see any heating element actually in the tank. The ambient heat from the seat will presumable keep the tank at a tepid temp. IDK how warm the water should be.

Not cold, that's for sure!

[Steve Carlton]

Nothing beats steam.