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F: "...As far as treatment of the VC, the only folks I know of that admitted to atrocities..."

The issue wasn't atrocities committed against the Viet Cong. It was atrocities committed against innocent civilians. Does someone need to 'confess' for you to accuse them?

At the risk of being over-educated, you might want to read this:

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1071214,00.html
The poster I was answering specifically referred to the VC...I have no idea why you think that was not what he meant...are you two having a different, private conversation?

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Actually, you are both wrong, (sort of), or maybe I wasn't clear in my language. What I meant to say was that whatever we might have done to a captured VC or Nazi, however justified it might have seemed in the moment due to battle stress/torture recieved by us/etc.., only accomplishes the necessary link in the never-ending chain of human rights abuses. Unless we break the chain by treating prisoners better, w/o waiting for the other side to behave better.

My fear would be for myself and my comrades if I was a soldier or Marine in Iraq right now, wouldn't want to be the next U.S. POW right now. That is why heads need to roll now, this stupid ***** needs to be kiboshed, big-time.
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...and now Seymour Hersh's second article in the New Yorker says the prisons were put under the authority of Military Intelligence.

Not good. Really not good...
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If you look in the left-hand corner of the shot, they're using a German Shepherd to "scare" the prisoner - like he isn't scared already.

My question continues to be can regular old grunts think this stuff up, or does the order come from higher up?
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