Guys like me are a slowly dying breed. I'm going to go spend the evening in the darkroom printing 4x5s to commemorate. (sigh)

Hey! That's one nice looking white 87 in this pic. Looks like the trip up to the Cherohalla Skyway. We need to do that again!

Here's the view at our stopping point that day:
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http://www.mindspring.com/~robertcoa...h/DSC03403.jpg

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Oshkosh 2005 Pics

Cool, I took this photo from your oshkosh library. I fly these.

Actually I fly the ones with the XL on the tail on the right side of the picture.

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the F5. one of my all-time faves. not much of a payload capacity though

Similar. But these are both T38's. The black one is an A model and the gray one is a newly upgraded T-38C model with the slightly more powerful engines.

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May 6, 2005

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wow. could've fooled me. forgot all about the trainer. they do use the same platform, no? so how does the F20 figure in all of this? (besides the single engine)

The F-5 has some different spraybars in the engine that makes it more powerful and only the rear cockpit is present. So the nose looks much longer. Some countries still use it. iran for one.

I'm not sure the F-20 was ever put into production.

Few more differnces between the T-38 and F-5... different engines and intakes... slightly differnet wing planform and geometry, and most of all differnt fuselage.. the F-5 (sinlge seat versions aprt) have a longer and slightly flatter and fatter fuselage...mainly towards the front....to get the twin cannons in and to increase internal volume...avioincs etc etc.

Nose is also longer...

F-5A and B are pretty thin on the operational side, however few more nations still use the F-5E and F..

F-5G was renamed the F-20 because it was so different....and praised by Chuck Yeager as the best dog fighter he had ever flown.

USN and USAF wanted it as dissimilar ACM aircraft, but cost precluded such a dedicated programme.... F-16 and F-18s used instead....as well as F-5s and A-4s...Only three F-20s were built and only one survives.

F-5s also served as the basis for the X-29 and the SSB Research aircraft
http://www.rosamondproperties.com/sonic_boom.html
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/x-29.htm

Museum of Natural History.

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Taken in Germany of course. A3 2.0 T Sportback. (run in for 2000 miles)

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Hey I've got one of those too. Taken in GM, VW Golf TDI.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1124145618.jpg

Hmmm...post 359 (not that I'm counting)

That's a sweet shot, Russ. Where is it?

NYC

NYC using Google Earth

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1124558956.jpg

And it is hanging from the ceiling where I work!