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p.s. I just did more research on the term "fool's errand" than the daddy has done for all of his posts on OT combined.
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So it is a fool's errand to look for a Bush lie, because there are none.
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Lendaddy--No need to shout or name calling. Paying 3/4 of their bills is a far cry from paying none of them which is what a bankrupt SS system would be. Don't understand why you are too dense to understand this simple concept.
Scooter's Dad--thanks for the definition. That's as close as anyone could come to describe what is being discussed. "A false statement deliberately presented as being true; a falsehood. Something meant to deceive or give a wrong impression." Nathan's Dad wrote--Bottom line is that there are certainly many people out there that would consider you bankrupt if you defaulted on 25% of your bills every month. So, I think it has been shown that this certainly was not a "lie" as defined by the initial post in the thread. Most of the US credit card companies gladly let you pay as you described. You can think it has been shown not to be a lie, but that doesn't make it true either. Look to the definition Scooter posted and I quoted above. If the system is as Mr. Bush described, and the Republicans control the present government----why did reform get dropped like a bad blind date? Who are you guys going to blame now?
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OK, call it an educated guess (sorry to everyone still on topic, I just think it's useless. We have guys here -- a lot of them in fact -- who continue to insist that there are WMDs in Iraq; they are just "well hidden," or "really small." If you think any of them are going to admit that Bush fudged the pre-war intelligence, by going through volumes of data, you are kidding yourself.) |
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You and I will just have to agree to disagree on this. You think bankrupt means broke, where as I believe it means insolvent and/or unable to meet obligations.
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Insolvent. Unable to pay one's debts; bankrupt. Bankrupt. Legally declared insolvent and having one's remaining property administered by or divided among one's creditors. Financially ruined. Broke. Without funds. I think they mean the same thing. Broke is busted. Nothing. 74% is not busted or broke.
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Sam, I really don't want to get between you and len, but you just lost your own argument.
If Bankrupt = insolvent, insolvent = bankrupt, and insolvent = unable to pay one's debt; and SS can't afford to pay 100% of its own debt at some point in the future; then SS will be insovent, which = bankrupt.
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Sorry Scooter, I've just been trying to say if you can pay some of your bills some of the time, you can string most creditors along for a fairly long time. It seems to work for a large part of the US population on a regular basis. But then, we are not talking about people paying their bills. This is a payment from a Federal Agency for a program US consumers are paying into that is backed by the full faith and credit of the US Government. Looks like to me, if Mr. Bush thinks SS will be broke by 2041, so will the government. So is the government broke too?
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Stop diverting the argument Sam, you lost this one.
Let's return to the point of the thread which is proving any of the so-called Bush lies. Pick another...that horse is dead Sam.
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we are close to the scenario described above right now, 350billion or so deficits, about 1 in 5 bills gets paid with borrowed money. Len, does that mean the country is bankrupt now?
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Is it more like chapter 11
 "I've been to war". Still LOL. He also said something like the following about Bin Laden in March '02: "I don't know where he is. I have no idea and I don't really care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." In this part of the world, we would call saying that Bush is telling the truth a "Clayton's Choice". False = lie, true = idiot.
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Here, I can't help myself. From the LA Times:
The German intelligence officials responsible for one of the most important informants on Saddam Hussein's suspected weapons of mass destruction say that the Bush administration and the CIA repeatedly exaggerated his claims during the run-up to the war in Iraq. Five senior officials from Germany's Federal Intelligence Service, or BND, said in interviews with The Times that they warned U.S. intelligence authorities that the source, an Iraqi defector code-named Curveball, never claimed to produce germ weapons and never saw anyone else do so. According to the Germans, President Bush mischaracterized Curveball's information when he warned before the war that Iraq had at least seven mobile factories brewing biological poisons. Then-Secretary of State Colin L. Powell also misstated Curveball's accounts in his prewar presentation to the United Nations on Feb. 5, 2003, the Germans said. Curveball's German handlers for the last six years said his information was often vague, mostly secondhand and impossible to confirm. "This was not substantial evidence," said a senior German intelligence official. "We made clear we could not verify the things he said."
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Still no verifiable Bush lies? My, my, my! You leftys must really feel sheepish.
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