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I'll be the minority, I think Ford has improved Jaguar. Sure you may find Ford parts bin bits in your S-type, but they have greatly improved reliability, probably the biggest knock on the old Jags. Now Ford needs to just step away and let them go. Close association with Ford is the last thing any aspirational luxury brand needs, and I sure as hell don't want to see the same climate control in my $40k Jag as I would find in a $15k Focus. They need to get back to building exclusive, desirable cars on the high end, and top notch sports sedans that will compete with MB and BMW for their volume sellers. The biggest knock on the S-type was that it was a in-betweener, just like it's Lincoln brother. Not enough sport to be a sports sedan, not enough luxury to be a pure luxury car. It may be a nice car, and obviously some like it, but they tried to hit two targets with one dart. Probably a marketing decision by Ford, they've been missing the target for years.

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Old 03-25-2006, 07:00 AM
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Just my opinion, but the Jags have beautifully designed interiors. The S-type sedan has timeless lines and to me, looks like a luxury car should. The new XK almost hit a homerun. Sure, the front looks like a Taurus, but if they had just changed the headlights! Imagine each side with a pair of nested round lamps, one smaller and one larger. Like the Mercedes SLK. Now that would be beautiful.




Headlights like this:

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Sorry, Moses, but that's one of the current styling trends that I can't stand!

The outgoing XK8 is one of the most beautiful cars ever. While it is time for a change, I was hoping for a positive one. The new car is nice, but doesn't make my heart go pitter-patter like a Jaguar should.
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Sorry, Moses, but that's one of the current styling trends that I can't stand!

Most of the classic styles use round headlights. The Mini, the VW bug, even the Jeep suffered slow sales and returned to the round headlamps. Oh, and there is another classic...the Porsche 911. One of the big complaints about the 996 was the "modern" headlights.

The new Jag XK is a great car, but the headlamp styling can be found on any late model Honda, Hyundai, Toyota or minivan.

Round headlights give a car "presence".
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What do they have in common? Utterly forgettable headlights.





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Here are a couple Jags with attitude.



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Round headlights give a car "presence".
Yes. But figure eights do not.
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The headlights are unremarkable...

These:



for some reason reminds me of the headlights on this:

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The Ford Puma.
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I'd imagine Ferrari does a LOT better then that.
I suppose you're right, except that "Ferrari" is not an independent car company. If you looked at the average profit for a Fiat car, it would be way less than $7800, even including Ferrari sales.

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