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BTW the blackstone group makes NO-thing
they are takeover vultures
they buy and sell CORPs mostly semi-dead or dieing CORPs
and do very very little themselfs
kinda like ENRON
they are paper shuffling non productive leaches
those type of ''investors''should be taxed out of biz not given breaks

Old 06-24-2007, 12:16 PM
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I worked on real jobs
we did make both health and safty changes
by laying water and sewer pipeslines
build pump/lift stations
and whole treatment plants
with real risks of death or injury
from trafic and heavy equipment
ditch cavein , toxic chemicals ect
not paper cuts like this fool
but semi's and dozers and ditchers
not to count the time nuts pulled guns after being stoped for a few seconds on a road
or the times they crashed into our truck
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The guy who starts a business provides employment for hundreds if not thousands of people and the tree huggers harpoon him for it.
Cnn said between Blackstone and the companies they own they employ 375,000 people.
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Old 06-24-2007, 12:27 PM
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most likely that was 500,000 pre takeovers
so a net lost of jobs
thats how they ''work''
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Originally posted by nota
btw no feds or mail

I worked on real jobs
we did make both health and safty changes
by laying water and sewer pipeslines
build pump/lift stations
and whole treatment plants
with real risks of death or injury
from trafic and heavy equipment
ditch cavein , toxic chemicals ect
not paper cuts like this fool
but semi's and dozers and ditchers
not to count the time nuts pulled guns after being stoped for a few seconds on a road
or the times they crashed into our truck
You lay sewer pipelines and drive a truck. And you call a man who has created, from nothing but a dream, a company worth billions the "fool". That's funny :-)
Old 06-24-2007, 12:55 PM
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one guy is worth one 1/4 of a huge CORP??????
AND I BET HE PAID ABOUT ZIP FOR ANY OF THAT STOCK

basic fairness and neo-conned LIES THAT THE RICH ARE OVER TAXED IS THE POINT

A WORKER PAYS 15% SS [ if self imployed] PLUS WHAT EVER TAX RATE on top of that
RICH GUYS PAY 1/2 OR LESS
BUT THE RICH ARE OVER TAXED????????????????

AND DONOT FORGET BuSh2 WHO HAS NEVER EVER GOT NEAR A BALANCED BUDGET WANTS NO TAX ON DIVIDENDS OR CAPITAL GAINS
THAT WILL MAKE THE UNFAIR TAX RATES WORSE

AND INCOME TAX WAS TO BE A RICHMAN'S ONLY TAX
AS FIRST PASSED INTO LAW
WITH WORKERS PAYING NO-THING AT ALL

BUT THE NEO-COONNED SHEEP STILL BLEET THE RICH ARE OVERTAXED bs bs bs

THE WORKERS YOU AND ME WHO GOT THE VERY SMALLEST OF THE TAX CUTS ARE, WERE, AND WILL BE OVER TAXED
AND THE SUPER RICH ARE, WERE, AND WILLBE UNDER TAXED

SAME AS IT EVERWAS
Typical ******* liberal response, punish those who work their asses off to do well. But liberal think it is wrong for someone to earn a lot of money while they stand in the street and protest how much someone earns in the business they started, invested, built & worked long hours to get where they are. Just because they are smarter than you, work harder than you made better decisions than you, and this post shows why you are a MW worker, he should be punished. I nwould hate to be a angry envius looser why cried about how much some one else earns. Why aren't you crying about what Pro ball players earn or Movie stars, money that comes out of your pocket. The way you look at life, you must think I should give some of my Porsches away, after all I have more than I really need, but I worked my A$$ off the get them But since someone, who may not work as many hours as I do, or make good decisions doesn't have any, under your socialist dream, you think that some of mine should be given to looser who aren't willing to do what I did. Funny, you call the business owner & leaders Sheep while drones like you cry about what they have If we are sheep, why are you so envius???



It must really to to be so mad because someone else has done well Now there is a mess in the back, go sweep it up!!
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Old 06-24-2007, 12:57 PM
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"Now there is a mess in the back, go sweep it up!!
Racerbvd that is one of the funniest things I have ever read on this forum!
I can not believe how angry people get over other people's success. The man pays the same Capital gains tax as everyone else (over a billion bucks) but because he made, thats right MADE so much money it's not fair. Cry me a river.
Pretty soon people will complain about our hosts success and demand that he start giving people free stuff because his business is so successful.
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"Now there is a mess in the back, go sweep it up!!
Racerbvd that is one of the funniest things I have ever read on this forum!
I can not believe how angry people get over other people's success. The man pays the same Capital gains tax as everyone else (over a billion bucks) but because he made, thats right MADE so much money it's not fair. Cry me a river.
Pretty soon people will complain about our hosts success and demand that he start giving people free stuff because his business is so successful.
Steve
Funny thing is, I worked as a long shoreman in the ship yard (talk about a dangerous job, but that helped pay for school, I drove a truck when I wanted to learn the auto parts side, but moved up to sales manger and was the last guy there, while growing the entertainment biz, and I never whined about how much more someone else had, I worked and earned what I have, and did some of it the same as (other than digging ditches) nota, yet you don't hear me whining because one of my buddies has a new GT2RS on order, hell I look forward to going for a ride in it
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I have no real problem with fair progressive tax rates
but think unEARNED income should not be taxed at a lower rate then the workers pay
so huge capital gains should bring a huge tax bill
Typical socialist BS, thinking that there is such a thing as "unearned" income. (Yea, the government/IRS uses this term -- I'm sure the term was chosen carefully to appeal to fools, much the way government "handouts" have been renamed "entitlements.")

I've paid taxes on "unearned" income before. (I'll be having to pay more on it this year.) It represents some of the hardest work I've ever done when it comes to earning money.

Of course, sitting up until 4 a.m. studying businesses (doing things like reading SEC filings) is something that I'm sure you'd claim isn't "work."

I'm certain that in your primitive brain, some idiot smashing stones with a sledge hammer in a rock quarry is "working harder" than anyone using his intellect to earn wealth.
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Uhhh I don't mean to interrupt the discussion on the money and all but very early in this posting a member made several statements , one of which was this one "that Blackstone CEO belongs to an elite group of white Rich folk"

Which beg's the question what does race have to do with this topic , and why was there a need to bring it up ???

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Oh ok, thanks for the info , did not know that , and here I was thinking it was a racial slur, how stupid of me.

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skip right over the point
this guy is a takeover vulture
he makes no-thing at all
just a paper shuffing thief like ENRON's KEN BOY LAY
his only on the job risk is a paper cut

and I bet thousands of lost jobs pay cuts and benefits lost
in his takeovers and no net gain except to his CORP
but he make billions taxed at falling rates

NO he is not a sheep, but anyone who earns a normal wage
and is for this BS and the BuSh2 tax rates IS THE SHEEP
as the GOP support is not only the from the uber rich
there are not enuff of them
so they do require the SHEEP who they have conned
to win elections and or steal them

I have far more respect for a guy who does PRODUCE like steve jobs or bill gates builds a real productive CORP then a vulture who only steals be it inside the law or ourside it is stealing eather way and does very very little in return for the big bucks
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btw no I donot dig the ditch

I do work on the job sites
reading plans, doing layouts, locating where to dig
looking out for other utilitys stuff
on multi million dollar jobs
and record the location of the pipes once layed
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most likely that was 500,000 pre takeovers
so a net lost of jobs
thats how they ''work''
When they bought the company I work for, they didn't fire anyone. They did offer a very enticing early retirement package that 99% of folks over 50 took. Then they gave us all raises and stopped having all the weekly regular meetings that were a waste of time. They also weren't averse to having conference calls so you wouldn't have to drive all over town to the few meetings they did have.
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I wonder what ENRON early retirement package is worth TODAY
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"btw no I donot dig the ditch

"I do work on the job sites
reading plans, doing layouts, locating where to dig
looking out for other utilitys stuff
on multi million dollar jobs
and record the location of the pipes once layed"

So you're a GLORIFIED ditch digger? BTW it's "lay" or "laid"- not "layed".

If you had listened in school and applied yourself you could be manufacturing the pipes or designing the pipe layouts or running the company that installs them. Instead you're recording where they "layed" and *****ing about others wealth using the same tired buzzwords that define liberal losers.
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<--wishes that he could pay 1 million in taxes

(John Kerry paid less then 10% in taxes the yr prior to running for Pres.)

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