Sorry, I read this and I don't see the problem? It's sad yes, but she did deserve to go to jail for being combative and endangering others, what she did in the cell is her responsibility.

C'mon at what stretch did the cops beat or kill her? Pass the dutchie

I vote that we hire enough cops to monitor every criminal in every holding cell or prison in the country to make sure they don't harm themselves, others or have any emotional problems.

hmm, that sounds really PC, what a great thing "PC" is.

Again, it's a tragedy, but I don't think they did anything wrong.

She was not "every criminal".

That is the whole point - when middle age mother's of three children are treated like "every criminal" than this is what we get.

Get out a little guys - get from behind your computers and visit maybe a supermarket this weekend...

The next 45 year old woman you see, imagine how much of a threat to airport security she could really be..

So A middle aged mother should be treated differently than you, or I? I, for one, believe in equal treatment under the law. If you cause yourself to be arrested, Welcome to the world of the criminal justice system!

That method of thinking gives the "Don't you know who I am" crowd, and the celebrities credence.

With that said, the authorities ARE responsible for her death. You become the police departments responsibility when you are in cuffs. There should have been someone watching the cell. Every department I know of, has a schedule to make the rounds of the cells when there is a prisoner.

Whatever department that was will be sued for wrongful death very soon, and they will lose.

How are the cops supposed to know she's a suicidal or unbalanced drunk? They weren't looking for trouble. They were called to fix a situation between strangers. When I got arrested, I was very cooperative and when we got to jail, the cops uncuffed me and left me in the lobby, uncuffed and unsupervised. I could have walked right out of there. I was alone for about 30 min., reading magazines like I was at the doctor's office. Those cops also had no idea if I was a nut or a normal guy. I'm glad they gave me the benefit of the doubt and didn't just throw me in a straight jacket. I saw the video tape of this woman's arrest today and it looked like the cops did everything right. I have no sympathy for people who resist arrest. People who refuse to walk should be dragged by their hair. If this woman had such a history, why was she allowed by her family to fly unaccompanied? Didn't they think she might stop off at the bar during her layover? If you're flying from NYC to Tucson for rehab, you probably have a real problem and the money to deal with it the right way. She should have had people with her. No, she didn't deserve to die. I don't either, but if I kill myself, no one else is to blame.

I get this and couldn't agree more. Equal treatment IMHO is what America is all about.


I DO NOT get this. Sure, she was in custody but how much babysitting should have been done? Enough to guarantee she wouldn't strangle herself? (if that's what is proven to be the case). I don't think so. The police may settle just to keep themselves out of the paper but I think they should respectfuly fight it. They should say publicly (if they haven't already) that they deeply regret her death but have no culpability in it. The woman was out of control, wouldn't respond to direction and was placed under arrest with no extraordinary control measures having to be taken. Thereafter she was segregated so she could not hurt others. I don't see how this is the police department's responsibility. If she were in an adult daycare center, then maybe yes. But she wasn't.

Is NOTHING just an accident, just a tragedy? Does EVERYTHING have to be litigated? I'm a lefty and I don't see how this is the police's fault. To make it their fault IS just being ultra PC,...and its bullschit if it happens unless something else comes to light in this case. Very sorry for her family, but SHE'S responsible for their sorrow.

When the cops were called, they should have said they were going to come by, that they were on their way, and the just never shown up.

This leads to a larger question: Does the prison system have a responsibility to monitor prisoners: from themselves and/or others?
I think yes.

Cute psycho mommy, but too bad she already passed on her bipolar genetics.

Yes, but that's because they are in custody with others. She was not.

Not to mention they are each in custody with other convicted criminals; many of whom are serving for violent offenses. She was not in custody with anyone else that I know of. She killed herself. Sad but true whether intentional or not.

We have over 1 million people in prison in the US now and probably that many in jail cells or drunk tanks at any given time. There are not enough people to watch them all every minute of the day. They left this woman alone for 5-10 minutes. That could have been long enough for her to go to the bathroom. Expect someone to watch her then? C'mon. People who kill themselves are the ones responsible. If you don't like handcuffs, don't get arrested. If you get arrested, don't try to get out of the cuffs. It's really that simple.

Ditto.

Hey, here's another tip: Don't call the cops names, don't call their mothers names, don't spit on them.

Free speech? Yes, as a matter of fact you DO have that right. We'll put it on your tombstone, "He exercised his right to free speech"

So some b*tch, drinks too much, raises hell, causing a scene, then dies at her own hand, and the liberals blame the police, sorry, had she behaved normal and not like an loud obnoxious drunk yelling & throwing things, she wouldn't be dead today. What is it with liberals that they don't believe that people should be held responsible for their actions:confused:

Actually, what is it with "the conservatives, don't they READ"? I just got through specifically mentioning I'm a liberal and I don't think the cops did anything wrong.

I also don't call women "b*tches" or assume ALL of ANY particular political perspective have a problem with ALL things police do. But hey, maybe its JUST me, right?

Geez Byron, go back to sleep with your uh...er....well, you know what I mean;)

where i'm from , anybody who get's tossed in the slammer, is uncuffed, without belts, shoelaces or anything that can be used to go suicidal...
and the inside of the cell would be without any such equipment either

at worst you can try and bump your head till you die, which i believe is a suicide method with extremely low success rates


i guess if you really, really want to , you could take off your pants and try to strangle yourself with those, but even then i doubt you'll find it an easy way to get jiggy with the Grim Reaper


i think this is a tragedy, but if she was so unbalanced and her hubby knew about it,then why was she not escorted by him or by somebody he trusts?

cops to blame, well, perhaps they should find better ways of throwing folks in the slammer
you don't need straight jackets for that, just a well designed cell, and a proper procedure so nothing is taken in the cell that can be dangerous

works for crazies, junkies, alci's and what not
shackles are for transport, not for lockup

Yes Dan, but I wrote this before you responded, with your support for reaction, I'm sorry if you feel included. I only call the loud drunk, mean women b*tches, I prefer ladies:D
Give me a lady with at least her Masters, and in a business suit, and I'm all over that:D


This one, tends to be brough up by libs, as in this case:p

BTW Dan, I look forward to doing shots with you one day, Sup too!!!

they did not, she was a suicidal alcoholic who strangled herself trying to get out of her handcuffs

that is true. they are mandated to check her each 15 minutes by their policy, they checked in 10 minutes and she was all done. You are all wet on this one

More Civil Right Abuses by Outlaw Cops..

Love the sensationalism of it all.......You should have written it like this:

MORE Civil Rights Abuses by OUTLAW COPS...

Where did you get the More and Outlaw from? You must have listened to Allen Combs last night on the radio.

Based on everything her husband said (called the airport, etc.) to tell them she was suicidal begs one question...

Why did he allow her to fly to rehab unaccompanied ?? If anyone should be blamed for her death it is him. Good idea, let's let someone on their way to alcohol rehap do a layover by themselves in the airport bar.....
This is a tragedy but it is not the cop's fault. The husband needs to look in the mirror when hunting someone to blame.

Okay upon re-reading I came off a bit tightazzed....sorry. You know we libs are loose azzed...uh...oh...that didn't come out sounding right!:D

I coulda used a shot before I wrote that response, huh? Oh well, one day.....just make sure you bring one of your "friends" that has a soft spot for those of "the geezse"SmileWavy

No prob, but I prefere to make new friends when I travel:D We should both do a shot of Jager:D