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Mark Wilson 10-05-2007 05:59 PM

moron-ramp shows his stupidity yet again.

dtw 10-05-2007 06:49 PM

That's it. From now on, every time you post a dumb-ass thread like this, I'm eating a big, thick, bloody steak in your honor.

Rick Lee 10-05-2007 06:51 PM

Better yet, I'm going to shoot a deer just for the hell of it and NOT eat it.

Danny_Ocean 10-05-2007 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan in Pasadena (Post 3515867)
I also don't call women "b*tches"...

I do. They kinda go off when you use the "C" word...

HardDrive 10-05-2007 07:00 PM

on-ramp.....wow.

I suppose you are supporting Sharpton and the Jena 6 as well?

Pick your battles better man. This woman was off her head. And the videos show that she was being combative with the police. The took her, and put her in a cell with her arms restrained behind her back. Her own actions were clearly the cause of her death.

What kind of utopian marijuana dream do you live in anyway?

Seriously man, I'm about as liberal as they come, but your WAY beyond that. You not even in contact with reality.

A drunk, emotionally distraut woman asphixiates herself with her shackles, and were living in a nazi society?

Danny_Ocean 10-05-2007 07:33 PM

We've had several instances here in SoFLA over the last year or so with nut-whacks going off on an airplane or in the terminals. Some were drunk, but most were "cukoo-for-cocoa-puffs". In all cases, with the exception of one guy who was shot in front of his wife (screaming "Don't shoot! He's my husband and he hasn't taken his medication!" LOL), none of these looney-tunes were escorted. Of course, in the paper the next day, you see quotes from the family saying they knew the person was disturbed and was travelling to/from wherever for treatment. Sorry, but if you or your loved one is one slice short of a sandwich, shouldn't you escort them or arrange for an attendant? No sympathy here.

Joeaksa 10-05-2007 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny_Ocean (Post 3516240)
I do. They kinda go off when you use the "C" word...

Was working with an Aussie pilot the last two months and we got into a discussion about this. Its a common word down under and used often directed towards some women.

He was looking at a couple of wonderful American versions and said "what a bunch of c**ts when it came up. He just kinda laughed and said "after living in America for over 15 years, you guys are too PC and need to tell it like it is"....

idontknow 10-05-2007 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rammstein (Post 3515657)
If the PDA she threw hit a toddler in the eye and blinded the toddler, would the police who didn't tackle her fast enough be responsible?

No silly, the toddler should have offered her chocolates and sweets to help calm her down. You know, like they do in soft Europe!

I bet all of you will think twice about sending your psychotic, alcoholic, bipolar wives on an airplane unsupervised. Now the poor husband is going to have to sue to get any money out of her, stupid life insurance clauses. Maybe he can sue the airline for enabling her to become drunken?

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Originally Posted by on-ramp (Post 3515630)
Then I remembered what happened to the little girl handcuffed and brought to the police station some time ago somewhere in the States because she refused to obey her teacher and began punching her and jumping around the classroom, and again I thought that if something of this kind had occurred in Europe we would have offered the girl sweets and chocolate instead, to calm her down.

When she continues her punching the teacher after being offered the sweets, what would the Europeans do then? Whoever said that mustn't have much to do with raising his children if he even has any of his own.

That's all the odd thoughts I have for now.

Dan in Pasadena 10-05-2007 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Racerbvd (Post 3516115)
No prob, but I prefere to make new friends when I travel:D We should both do a shot of Jager:D

Jager? You're talking to a California Mexican. Its Mescal if you're doing shots, c'mon!:rolleyes::D

Hey, Hard drive came in on my side. That makes TWO whole liberals on a hard ass law and order thread!:eek:

DavidI 10-06-2007 07:08 AM

Why was the loving, supporting husband allowing the mother of his 3 children, who may have been suicidal and had substance abuse issues, not showing his commitment by personally escorting her to her treatment center? Simply blame the police......It always seems their fault.

Racerbvd 10-06-2007 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan in Pasadena (Post 3516402)
Jager? You're talking to a California Mexican. Its Mescal if you're doing shots, c'mon!:rolleyes::D

Hey, Hard drive came in on my side. That makes TWO whole liberals on a hard ass law and order thread!:eek:


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rammstein 10-06-2007 09:05 AM

Lets get it straight- on this issue, its not a liberal vs. conservative thing.

It has more to do with basic comprehension.

One one side, we have "undeniable logic"; on the other we have REALITY.

widgeon13 10-06-2007 04:21 PM

I can't understand why she had to go to Tucson for rehab, plenty of nice places back around NYC where she lived. Isn't that where she was headed.

Dan in Pasadena 10-06-2007 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rammstein (Post 3516831)
Lets get it straight- on this issue, its not a liberal vs. conservative thing..

This was my initial objection to Byron's blast on liberals....



Quote:

Originally Posted by rammstein (Post 3516831)
It has more to do with basic comprehension.

One one side, we have "undeniable logic"; on the other we have REALITY.

Noyt sure I agree with the "basic comprehenson". I suppose people can see things differently, but I don't see how this is the cops fault and I DO see how the husband might be faulted - depending on unknown at this time circumstances - he let her trsvel alone and it does NOT sound like she was up for it. To me, that has now been tragically proven.

Sorry for her family, sorry for the cops that probably feel bad this person died. But sometimes bad things happen and no one rightfully should be sued.

widgeon13 10-06-2007 05:24 PM

I can not comprehend why the family would send her across the country (alone) to check into rehab. She most likely would not be in a very good frame of mind and spending travel time alone clearly would only have a negative effect on this situation. If she was on her way to rehab for alcohol abuse more than likely she was hitting the bars at the airport, not necessarily her fault given the diagnosis.

The cops had a very difficult situation and most likely did not have background details on what they were walking into. The husband should carry the responsibility for her travel situation as she never should have been traveling alone. Given that she was going to rehab to the tune of $50K for a month or whatever, they should have arranged for someone to travel with her, no question in my mind about that. The situation is sad and most unfortunate but I certainly cannot fault the police for the woman's death.

DavidI 10-06-2007 08:29 PM

Another aspect to consider, when the "loving" husband files the lawsuit.....This money does not belong to the government or police department, it comes from the law abiding tax paying citizens. This is YOUR money and my money that is used to pay for the payouts......Just something to think about.

TexasPete2720 10-06-2007 09:45 PM

Cops???????????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by on-ramp (Post 3515655)
you're an idiot. .. in this situation, if you are a compassionate human being, you call an AMBULANCE, not the Nazi police.

Lets just get rid of all the cops and the military and see where that gets us.

Quit whinning about that drunk nut case and move on with YOUR life, lets get on with the Porsche stuff.:eek:

rammstein 10-07-2007 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan in Pasadena (Post 3517369)
This was my initial objection to Byron's blast on liberals....





Noyt sure I agree with the "basic comprehenson". I suppose people can see things differently, but I don't see how this is the cops fault and I DO see how the husband might be faulted - depending on unknown at this time circumstances - he let her trsvel alone and it does NOT sound like she was up for it. To me, that has now been tragically proven.

Sorry for her family, sorry for the cops that probably feel bad this person died. But sometimes bad things happen and no one rightfully should be sued.


Hopefully, you wrote this not thinking that I was disagreeing with you. Your assessment is pretty much the same as mine. "Undeniable logic" was a poke at OnRamp's hopelessly Avatar quote. Reality is what you stated. We are in agreement.

The husband isn't "at fault" thoug, IMO. The only person responsible, and hence 'at fault' is the woman who killed herself, either on purpose or inadvertantly. Unfortunately for the husband, he likely feels complicit in this by not having been there with her (or letting her go in the first place), and he's surely in a world of emotional hurt, as the kids are. I mean, I sit here and think about this, that woman DIED for no good reason. Its really, really sad.

Britwrench 10-07-2007 08:36 AM

If someone, with known "issues" travels alone, what do you think will happen?
The family should have made it a priority to have someone (preferably trained to deal with her problems) was there at all times. Apparently they didn't care that much.

They didn't (according to anything in the news reports) and the end result was tragic.

widgeon13 10-07-2007 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Britwrench (Post 3518068)
If someone, with known "issues" travels alone, what do you think will happen?
The family should have made it a priority to have someone (preferably trained to deal with her problems) was there at all times. Apparently they didn't care that much.

They didn't (according to anything in the news reports) and the end result was tragic.

I couldn't agree more and money was not supposed to be an issue. Anyone thinking an alcoholic isn't going to have a few drinks before going into rehab is totally stupid. This women was an accident waiting to happen. She could just as easily rented a car to get to her destination and had a few more along the way, then smacked into an innocent traveler on the highway. Certainly a stretch but I've heard of crazier stories.

I think the husband was careless to the point of being negligent in this case.


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