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All input are making sense and valuable but let me be a little mor detail so you can see why she came up with the idea.
At first, she love (the look) of the car, knowing 911 has always been my dream car and nothing else can be better. For a while, she was always there for the 911. When I DIY, she's there to help handling tools and such. When we went out, I am happy driving it. She's happy riding it knowing I love the car.
After a while, experiencing several incidents such as slave cylinder went dead while we were on the way to a friend's wedding. I was driving without clutch that night and we got there really late. And I almost got into a fiight with a bunch of idiot who was horking, reving, showing finger at me while I was having trouble shifting, with my emergency lights on. Although I could manage to get us home safe, and no damage to the car but still... then the starter issue came up. And then the Alpine alarm issue came up. Then alternator came. Then the AC issues... and ect. These are only major issues. There are little things here and there. Also, I often like to "hug" my cars when even nothing wrong with it, and use "repair" as a reason
And again, as someone mentioned above, I slowly spent more time with the car. We used to do things together but now instead of family even on weekends as usual, I rather "repair" my car and ask her to go with others. Well, I should take more responsibility too. But... who doesn't want his car to run/perform a little better if he loves his car. Right? Especially this board is so active. Everytime reading something new, and there always something new, I would just want to have some time to do it right away.
Another related reason is as someone mentioned above, we are thinking about changing home. The first thing I look is bigger and taller ceiling garage. My reason is preparing for a lift in the future. And bigger backyard, also for the future, if I can afford my own repair garage. To us, this is a little hard, especially in SCal. Beside the garage and the backyard, who cares. Then she was "huh? all you care is the garage?".
No, she didn't push me to sell it. She just had an idea "maybe you get a Lexus so you don't have to fix it all the time". To her, it's good for both, me and the family. But to me I must have it, just that it needs a little more than usual attention. Or maybe it doesn't, but I rather say I paid too much attention to it. My conclusion, no more thought about losing my car. She stays.
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Old 10-13-2007, 03:36 PM
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Edit: OK, I'm a little late to the party, but here's my $.02 on the grand question...

Every person must have their passions....passions are what give us our soul. If this is your passion...and part of your soul...your soulmate shouldn't ask you to get rid of it. If she does, she's not your soulmate.

My first Porsche outlasted my first marriage. Now with Julie, I've bought and sold many Porsches...lost money on pretty much all of them (which I never cared about)...but Julie has always been nothing but supportive. She understands and shares my passions, even if they're not always her passions. This is why she's my soulmate.
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the more I keep the car the more I decrease its' value, and ect.
Tell her that if you sell the car now, you would be selling it at the ABSOLUTE BOTTOM of it's depreciation curve. A lot of the Bruce Anderson data shows that the depreciation/appreciation turnaround is right about 1986-87 right now. Convince her that the car is an ASSET.
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All input are making sense and valuable but let me be a little mor detail so you can see why she came up with the idea.
At first, she love (the look) of the car, knowing 911 has always been my dream car and nothing else can be better. For a while, she was always there for the 911. When I DIY, she's there to help handling tools and such. When we went out, I am happy driving it. She's happy riding it knowing I love the car.
After a while, experiencing several incidents such as slave cylinder went dead while we were on the way to a friend's wedding. I was driving without clutch that night and we got there really late. And I almost got into a fiight with a bunch of idiot who was horking, reving, showing finger at me while I was having trouble shifting, with my emergency lights on. Although I could manage to get us home safe, and no damage to the car but still... then the starter issue came up. And then the Alpine alarm issue came up. Then alternator came. Then the AC issues... and ect. These are only major issues. There are little things here and there. Also, I often like to "hug" my cars when even nothing wrong with it, and use "repair" as a reason
And again, as someone mentioned above, I slowly spent more time with the car. We used to do things together but now instead of family even on weekends as usual, I rather "repair" my car and ask her to go with others. Well, I should take more responsibility too. But... who doesn't want his car to run/perform a little better if he loves his car. Right? Especially this board is so active. Everytime reading something new, and there always something new, I would just want to have some time to do it right away.
Another related reason is as someone mentioned above, we are thinking about changing home. The first thing I look is bigger and taller ceiling garage. My reason is preparing for a lift in the future. And bigger backyard, also for the future, if I can afford my own repair garage. To us, this is a little hard, especially in SCal. Beside the garage and the backyard, who cares. Then she was "huh? all you care is the garage?".
No, she didn't push me to sell it. She just had an idea "maybe you get a Lexus so you don't have to fix it all the time". To her, it's good for both, me and the family. But to me I must have it, just that it needs a little more than usual attention. Or maybe it doesn't, but I rather say I paid too much attention to it. My conclusion, no more thought about losing my car. She stays.
Thanks guys.


Got it. Thanks. Your call. Prehaps splitting your time between your loves would help.
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If you have a wife that supports your hobbies then you have nothing to worry about. If she said you had to stop buying and selling cars, flying airplanes, racing, autocrossing, I bet you would not feel that she was quite so wonderful. That is the point.
What I'm saying is that as long as she knows she has the number one spot, she will not ask.
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There are three things in life a man needs;
A sports car, a good stereo (or other music generating devices, guitars, drums, etc.), And some kind of workshop, ( a private man's domain)

A woman that would take any of those three away, has to go.

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All input are making sense and valuable but let me be a little mor detail so you can see why she came up with the idea.
At first, she love (the look) of the car, knowing 911 has always been my dream car and nothing else can be better. For a while, she was always there for the 911. When I DIY, she's there to help handling tools and such. When we went out, I am happy driving it. She's happy riding it knowing I love the car.
After a while, experiencing several incidents such as slave cylinder went dead while we were on the way to a friend's wedding. I was driving without clutch that night and we got there really late. And I almost got into a fiight with a bunch of idiot who was horking, reving, showing finger at me while I was having trouble shifting, with my emergency lights on. Although I could manage to get us home safe, and no damage to the car but still... then the starter issue came up. And then the Alpine alarm issue came up. Then alternator came. Then the AC issues... and ect. These are only major issues. There are little things here and there. Also, I often like to "hug" my cars when even nothing wrong with it, and use "repair" as a reason
And again, as someone mentioned above, I slowly spent more time with the car. We used to do things together but now instead of family even on weekends as usual, I rather "repair" my car and ask her to go with others. Well, I should take more responsibility too. But... who doesn't want his car to run/perform a little better if he loves his car. Right? Especially this board is so active. Everytime reading something new, and there always something new, I would just want to have some time to do it right away.
Another related reason is as someone mentioned above, we are thinking about changing home. The first thing I look is bigger and taller ceiling garage. My reason is preparing for a lift in the future. And bigger backyard, also for the future, if I can afford my own repair garage. To us, this is a little hard, especially in SCal. Beside the garage and the backyard, who cares. Then she was "huh? all you care is the garage?".
No, she didn't push me to sell it. She just had an idea "maybe you get a Lexus so you don't have to fix it all the time". To her, it's good for both, me and the family. But to me I must have it, just that it needs a little more than usual attention. Or maybe it doesn't, but I rather say I paid too much attention to it. My conclusion, no more thought about losing my car. She stays.
Thanks guys.
just sell the car and then get some professional help!
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The nerve!

If you love it, and it is paid for, and you don't need the money for anything else (kids college or a heart transplant), then you should absolutely keep it.

Why would she tell you to get ride of something you love? Why is she concerned that you are no longer a bachelor and need to act accordingly?
What is she trying to prove? That she owns you? That she has your balls in a vise and can turn up the squeeze anytime.

She should not even ask you to get rid of the stack of porn you collected over the last decade. That stack got you through some hard times and she should resplect that...

F the Lexus. Your a Porsche guy and you know it!!!
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Just trying to be funny.
I guess I may have come across a little firm.
God, I must have issues.. ;-)
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I have 3 kids in diapers. The time and money constraints on having kids and being self employed have caused some cash flow issues over the years. I've suggested selling the P-car a few times and my wife told me no way. As always, I'm glad I listened to her.
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O.K.

Here is some advice a (older and wiser than I) friend once told me. It is advice for LIFE in general, and relates to your situation. If your wife EVER asks you to give up or get rid of something (ANYTHING) you had before you got married, then tell her this:

"This was a part of my life before we were married, and thus MUST AND IS part of the reason you fell in love with me. If I were to give it up, I would no longer be the man you fell in love with."

So keep it. Simple as that.

If you got the car after you got married.......well, you screwed.. get rid of it....sorry (how much do you want for it?).

Hope this helps. If it does not work, than take nostatic's advice.
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I guess I did so bad of the explanation job which makes some of you don't get the correct idea.
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Hello - this is Dan's wife, Jeanine. I am a HUGE supporter of keeping the car. When my husband asked the "what car should I get rid of?" question, I without a hesitation, said the 1951 Willys Overlander w/Delivery Doors. I, for one, had MANY GREAT memories in his Porsche when we were first dating.... and I know how much HE loved that car - and that it would retain it's value. Why shouldn't he keep it? It WAS him! I understood that - and still do. Please let your man love what he loves - AND you. It doesn't have to be one or the other. It can be both.
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Would you give up your baby if your wife "says" so? Well she has reasonable reasons. Her reasons were I am a family man now, not a single man anymore, I don't have time for family, house works, I don't drive that much since I work from home most of the time, the more I keep the car the more I decrease its' value, and ect. She forgot that I love my baby so much and already spent a lot of time/$$ into it. She is correct somehow, but I feel she's slowly expanding her "capability". Looking at the pics you guys posted at Ortega drive this morning, I came out and "touch" my car again this morning... and I feel weird that the more she wants it to go, the more time I need to spend with it.

And the bad part is she wants me to get a Lexus ES.

I cannot give you any advice. You see, it was my wife who screamed at me...begging that I not sell the possibly best 1972 911S left on the planet...

I was done..burnt out of the P-car scene. I was bored to death with the car.

Looking at the pic of your car? I'd suggest waitng to look at the 2008 Lexus lineup...the new "F" stuff.. Hate to tell you this, but your P-car is nothing "special"to anybody..other than to perhaps you.

As far as your personal marriage relationship goes? Rots a ruck...seems to me your goands are in her purse...simply because you made this post.


Better go beg her forgiveness now...Maybe she'll allow you to kiss her...somethin' or other...
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Tell her that if you sell the car now, you would be selling it at the ABSOLUTE BOTTOM of it's depreciation curve. A lot of the Bruce Anderson data shows that the depreciation/appreciation turnaround is right about 1986-87 right now. Convince her that the car is an ASSET.
And this is opposed to a Lexus that you can buy for many $$$ so you can drive it for a few years and then sell for almost nothing??? (because it is a POS to begin with...) Then you can go buy another soulless POS so you can endlessly tithe to a car manufacturer for a car that you don't really want anyway!

There is no way that you could put as much money per month into maintenance as the money for monthly payments would be for the type of car she wants you in. You would have to get a new gunkmobile every 5 years so you can keep paying for the continuous depreciation. (Thank god she is being sensible...)

First - The important things in life aren't about being sensible. (except for some accountants...) The important thing is having a life that you enjoy living. It is about emotional content.
Second - If she feels it is important to pick and choose the subjects that you enjoy then she should be prepared to allow you to pick and choose the subjects that she will enjoy.

In that vein here is a starting suggestion:
Makeup and whatnot is basically about attracting the opposite sex. She already has a mate so all that expensive girly stuff is just wastefully consuming time and money that should be going towards the family. That should save a minimum of an hour a day and god knows how much money. (Lets see how far that suggestion goes even though it is basically identical to her 'suggestion'.)

She needs to take a good hard look into herself and decide if she wants the person she married. That person enjoyed having a fun car and enjoyed tinkering with it. She found that person interesting enough to go out with and get married to. If she really wants a person that drives a nice sensible minivan (Lexis, POS, whatever) then she should have been looking for one when she was dating.

Have you been telling her how she needs to change?

Hmmmm...
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By the way - Damn fine car you got there.

That makes my point even more.
I disagree...but different strokes....

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