Spot the Copperhead

[M.D. Holloway]

See pic below, can you spot the Copperhead?











































How about now?

[JavaBrewer]

Note to self - do not go jogging off the trail while on business travel in TX.

[Jim Richards]

It really doesn't jump out at you, does it?

[M.D. Holloway]

Only if you step on it, near it or within 10 feet of it! Don't worry though, the bite feels like a needle stab, the venom only burns for a few days and if you get to the hospital within 30 minutes you won't loose a limb (or life), well maybe not...

The snakes aren't the things to fear, its the Scorpians, Black Widows and Brown Recluse that will torment you!

[looneybin]

i've been stung by a scorpion & bitten by a black widow, but those damn vipers scare the hell out of me

[Rick Lee]

I got tagged by a scorpion my armpit. Still, I'm way more scared of Black Widows. No snake native to N. American scares me. Some of the stuff in Australia, India and Africa is a different matter though.

[JavaBrewer]

My neighbor was bitten on a finger by a black widow spider a couple years back. He was a mess for weeks and seriously stated that next time he will hack off his finger before going through that again. Luckily the spider is pretty easy to find and their webs are very distinct. My son and I go on a black widow hunting party with a stick one a month before bedtime. The widow comes out at night and are pretty easy to eliminate. They are predominantly an outdoor spider.

[stomachmonkey]

Mike and I live a couple of miles apart.

Between us is a neighborhood named Copper Canyon.

Give you one guess how it got its name.

On my block we have Black Widow and Scorpion sightings pretty much daily.

A woman in the area was outside with her dog, poodle or something like that, dog was on the other side of the yard and she looks over just as a Coyote hopped the fence, grabbed the dog and disappeared.

[Sunroof]

Copperheads love to hang out in the ivy here in north Georgia and ivy is everywhere. My neighbor was trimming his ivy on the street side and one came at him fast and caught him on the ankle. He was rushed to the hospital and said later it was one of the most traumatic events he ever went through!

Your tempted to wear leather leggings mowing the lawn.

Bob

[charleskieffner]

kill kill kill.............die die die..........kill kill kill ........die die die!

wish we had rattlesnake roundups here in arizona!

rattlers really have fuched up my day quite a few times in my life.


typical drill: bee boppin around property doing nermal household duties...........see/hear rattler. run fer nearest shovel..................snake is gone.


all nermal activities come to screaming mee mee halt! hunt for rattler begins. and will continue until found. not always are they found in my time line. as they are evil and sneaky.

when finally found after gentle coaxing with shovel or pellet gun.............a few hours of HIGH ******* DRAMA has elapsed and all you accomplished was kill a ******* snake all the while risking life and limb!

dear diary................didnt get much done cuz of snake!

when found..............kill them for sooner or later they will surface at the WORST TIME POSSIBLE!

[Rick Lee]

Charles, is it technically illegal to shoot snakes on your property? I see a lot of "no shooting" signs on Carefree Hwy. Seems a .22 would be a neccessity where you live.

[M.D. Holloway]

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey

Mike and I live a couple of miles apart.

Between us is a neighborhood named Copper Canyon.

Give you one guess how it got its name.

On my block we have Black Widow and Scorpion sightings pretty much daily.

A woman in the area was outside with her dog, poodle or something like that, dog was on the other side of the yard and she looks over just as a Coyote hopped the fence, grabbed the dog and disappeared.

When we first moved in we could her the coyotes every night - about 3AM as well as the trains. We have gotton used to it.

Stomachmonkey - it is just stupid we don't get together! Our weekends suck with busy ness. We should try for this weekend. If you drive up 2499, we are accross from the pond on the left -the house with the blow-up Mummy/Frankenstien/Witch driving a hotrod. Swing in if you can...

[Dan in Pasadena]

I'm from soCal so I don't know jack about Copperheads. Lethal or not?

I once worked in the field for Southern California Edision so I had to take a full day course on venomous snakes of California...which means only a few varieties of rattler. But no mention of Copperheads. Just curious, how many venemous snakes are there in the States? The Cottonmouth would be another, right? Any more?

[charleskieffner]

i am in a county island..........1/4 mile from occupied structure. OCCUPIED being BUZZ WORD!

all my neighbors do the same. we get so many becuz of construction nearby, that it is ******* NUTS!

.22 snake is fairly quiet. turn radio up in garage and none the wiser.

but getting .22 out of safe takes time.

.177 RWS pistol or rifle always in garage for just such a threat.

shovels everywhere. hoes(real tools-not beeatches) everywhere also.

hoes have longer handles which is nice when you get the 6-footers coming thru. 6ft =3ft striking distance.

kill kill kill die die die!

27 years of this crap.....................ya get damn GOOD and DAMN EFFICIENT and DAMN FAST!

[M.D. Holloway]

The vipers are generally considered to be the most advanced family of snakes since they possess a very sophisticated venom delivery system. Large tubular fangs are placed in the front of the mouth and they are hinged, allowing them to be folded back when not in use. Their heads are covered with numerous small scales and their eyes have vertically eliptical pupils. All the vipers found in North America are in the subfamily of pit vipers (Crotalinae) having a pair of heat sensing pits located between each eye and nostril. The rattlesnakes are a truly American family of pit vipers since they are not found in the Old World and all but two species are found in the U.S. or Mexico. They are divided between two genera based on their head scales. Members of the genus Crotalus have numerous small scales on their heads while members of the genus Sistrurus have large scales (plates) on their heads.
Agkistrodon contortrix Copperhead
Agkistrodon piscivorus Cottonmouth
Crotalus adamanteus Eastern Diamondback Rattlesnake
Crotalus atrox Western Diamondback Rattlesnake
Crotalus cerastes Sidewinder
Crotalus enyo Lower California rattlesnake
Crotalus horridus Timber Rattlesnake
Crotalus lepidus Rock Rattlesnake
Crotalus mitchellii Speckled Rattlesnake
Crotalus molossus Blacktail Rattlesnake
Crotalus pricei Twin-spotted Rattlesnake
Crotalus ruber Red Diamond Rattlesnake
Crotalus scutulatus Mojave Rattlesnake
Crotalus tigris Tiger Rattlesnake
Crotalus viridis Western Rattlesnake
Crotalus willardi Ridgenose Rattlesnake
Sistrurus catenatus Massasauga
Sistrurus miliarius Pigmy Rattlesnake

[M.D. Holloway]

ELAPIDAE (cobras and coral snakes)
Venomous
The cobra family is thought to have evolved from Colubrid snakes and many appear very similar in appearance with long, slender bodies and large scales (plates) on the head. They differ in having more advanced venom delivery systems than the venomous Colubrids. Elapids have fangs that are "effectively tubular" in that the fangs contain grooves that are enclosed by an infolding of the edges. The fangs are in the front of the mouth rather than the rear as is seen in venomous Colubrids. The Elapidae contains some of the world's most dangerous snakes including cobras (Naja), mambas (Dendroaspis) and sea snakes (Hydophinae and Laticaudinae). Elapids are found worldwide and in Ausralia are the predominant family. In North America, three species of elapids are found, two species of coral snakes and one sea snake. The coral snakes are relatively small snakes that spend most of their time underground. Their primary food is other snakes. Despite their small size and small fangs, their venom is extremely toxic.
Micruroides euryxanthus Western Coral Snake
Micrurus fulvius Eastern Coral Snake
Pelamis platurus Yellowbelly Sea Snake

[M.D. Holloway]

FAMILY BOIDAE (boas and pythons)
Boidae is a large family of snakes that includes all five of the world's giant snakes. Boids are an ancient family that are characterized by a mixture of modern and primitive traits. They have flexible jaws found in more advanced families but also retain a pelvic girdle, vestigial hind limbs, and many use both lungs. While there are close to one hundred species of boids worldwide, there are only two species of boas found in North America, both in the sub-family Eryciniae.
Charina bottae Rubber Boa
Lichanura trivirgata Rosy Boa

[stomachmonkey]

Originally Posted by LubeMaster77

When we first moved in we could her the coyotes every night - about 3AM as well as the trains. We have gotton used to it.

Stomachmonkey - it is just stupid we don't get together! Our weekends suck with busy ness. We should try for this weekend. If you drive up 2499, we are accross from the pond on the left -the house with the blow-up Mummy/Frankenstien/Witch driving a hotrod. Swing in if you can...

I've actually pulled into your drive a couple of times but you were not home.

My sis-in-law is in town this weekend.

Dinner Friday night at Lifes a Beach, weather permitting, if you wanna meet up.

We'll be doing BBQ on Sunday.

Prolly have a couple of the hoodies over as well.

I'd love it if you popped in for a bit.

I'll give you a call Thur/Fri to see what's what.

[charleskieffner]

i giggle like a lil school girl everytime i see on of our rezident HARRIS HAWKS that live across street or the great horned owls..................pick juan of those mutha fuchers up to take back to their nests to feed their young!

that is poetry in motion!


die die die kill kill kill die die die.


dont EVER TELL ME THIS PLANET NEEDS VENE-O-MOUS SNAKES!!!!!!!

if so.............please by all means............TAKE ALL OF MINE and LET THEM LIVE WITH YOU!

[Rot 911]

Pretty tough to die from a copperhead bite. Might make you sicker than a dog, but deaths are pretty rare.