Panamera recall

[island911]

Originally Posted by cairns

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I disagree. Most people care about how the car looks- not how they look in it-....

I was sloppy in my wording - sorry. To be even more precise; people care about their mind's-eye narrative, and how the car meshes with that self-narrative. Just look at the stereotypical Prius driver, or the short guy driving the big RAM/SuperDoodie.... Too many strive to tell the world who they are, through the style of their car --as if anyone really cares.

Funny, I have a VW van, but for me, it should really have one of those bumpersticker that reads; Who are 'The Dead' - and why are they following me?'

I know that a car's styling/identity (as perceived by most) doesn't always mesh well with my personal identity(whatever that is - beige, I suppose) ...but that's not as important to me as the other metrics of the machine.

The Cayenne, I never wanted to like. Again, like the Panamera, the styling never said "Porsche" to me. In fact, compared to the Touareg, the exterior styling does appear, as Clarkson said, like a 996 that backed into a shed. BUT, the interior of the Cayenne is far superior to that of the Touareg. And, since I'm the one looking at / interfacing with the interior I just couldn't go with the T-reg. ...plus the 955 just drives better, and works better in every way. ...even the doors (aluminum) close with more 'quality' than the steel doors of the T-reg.

Speaking of doors; have you seen the cool door hold devices on the Panamera? --no detents. ...the door just stays, to whatever angle you open it to.

Ironically, the only thing that I really dislike about the Panamera is the busy interior. Far too many busy fussy chrome buttons.

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by island911

What was that FUgly black performance car that you posted about a few years back? ...a US make, iirc.

No idea what you're talking about?

If i bought a Panamera it would only be to put the V8, trans and suspension in a car worthy of it. I would junk the body after i gutted it.

Actually, first i would shoot it full of holes on video, THEN i would junk it.

The car looks like a partial birth abortion.

[cairns]

"I was sloppy in my wording - sorry. To be even more precise; people care about their mind's-eye narrative, and how the car meshes with that self-narrative. Just look at the stereotypical Prius driver, or the short guy driving the big RAM/SuperDoodie.... Too many strive to tell the world who they are, through the style of their car --as if anyone really cares."

I can definitely agree with that. I suffer it myself as does everyone to some degree. For a few years I drove a beater Ford Escort to work in the Winter. I liked doing it because I saved wear and tear on more valuable cars- but I didn't like being perceived as a "loser" which, sad to say, happened often in that Escort.

I conciously try to avoid doing it to other cars but, for example, when I see a Prius moving slowly in the left lane covered with every Obama/Greenpeace/Coexist bumper sticker in the world it's impossible to not to think enviro-nerd.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by island911

The track performance is a good indicator as to how well the car will slice and dice whatever slab/travel condition it's put to. People with crotch-rockets know how nice it is to so easily blip on past a slow lane-hog. But they also know that doing so in the rain really sucks . . .and they are not going to be doing so with any passengers.

of course a 911 is a nice tool for many roads, but isn't super quiet or comfortable . . .esp. for more than two. My Cayenne, otoh, has made us a few trips to and from SoCal. Not only does it make little fuss about getting around whoever/whatever, it gets us there feeling as if we had only made a trip up to the store. ...fast, quiet, comfortable, non-conspicuous travel has it's merit. ...for some. YMMV

Hey, I like slice and dice. It's good to have a car that you can control. But on that slab/travel deal, you can go only so fast. I think the Panamera turbo is a bit excessive.

But, hey, I think people who buy GT3 RS's for the street are foolish.