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Yes...that's a turbocharged flat-6 stuffed in there.

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Old 09-10-2011, 11:28 AM
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I have no interest in arguing the merits of clean, orderly assembly other than to ask this question: What is the rationale behind a sloppy looking project.
As for "squandering money" if you can't afford to clean a project, perhaps that project should sit until you have time to clean it.
Don't change the subject, we can all see right through that.
This thread started out with people drooling how engines looked and that had nothing to do with how clean they were.
It was all about how shiny and buffed out and painted and polished they were. Then you changed it to sloppy, then you changed it to CLEAN. Stick to one thought process.

90% of overhauling a piece of machinery is cleaning parts for inspection and reassembly. You can't rebuild something correctly if it isn't cleaned correctly.
But there's a HUGE difference between clean and shiny.
This thread isn't about cleaning an engine or it's parts, it's all about making them pretty, shiny, chromed or polished, painted, and otherwise buffed out.

I appreciate pretty machines. The engine in my blown gas flatbottom was a supercharged chrysler hemi and everything on that engine was chromed, painted, or polished. Everything. Cost lots of money to get it that way.
But there was no BS involved, I make it clear that I did all that JUST to make it pretty and none of that pretty had anything to do with how it ran (high 7's in the quarter). I could have painted it all flat black and it would have ran just as fast and just as long.

I've been to your shop Henry and I appreciate how the engines you work on look.
You know what you're doing but you don't have to treat me like an uninformed customer. I'm not.
To pretend that they look all shined up because that's necessary to make em run good ain't gonna fly.
They are shined up and prettied up to appeal to the senses, not to make them run better.

There are allot of people out there who simply don't know any better and they think pretty and shiny means good.
Motor meister can polish parts too, but I wouldn't let them touch my engine.
It's a good business strategy to provide good AND pretty because that makes makes the customer happy, so there's nothing wrong with it unless they're told that pretty is necessary to make it run good.
In the old drag racing days we had a saying, "if it don't go, chrome it".


Oh, and anyone who rebuilds a 911 engine without installing seals on the rocker shafts is nutz
(That should do it.)
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IMHO, the thread title is Engine Porn...analogous to the visceral attraction to people porn. While some deviants may find seeing "sloppy" folks (or engines) desirable, the majority find them to be less so than "well kept" people (or engines). I can't see a thread titled "sloppy engines" going very far...but I could be wrong.
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is pornographic beauty skin deep? or is the underlying muscle and fascia important?
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Beauty should be taken on the whole and have some slightly strange proportion to it (strong emphasis on the 'slightly').

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Yes...that's a turbocharged flat-6 stuffed in there.
Yeah, somebody fed that bulldog a whole buncha pretty... And made him LIKE it, too!

Crazy and stunning. The perfect image for this "engine porn" thread.

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In the last year and a half we have completed 4 RS light weight projects and three of our other projects were featured in Excellence magazine.
Of those customers not one would have believed that their project was completed properly had the cosmetics not matched the mechanical restoration.
Those projects were not treated any differently than any other project we completed or are currently working on. Concourse restoration or stock street overhaul all get the same attention to detail. Why would any mechanic do any less?






"Pride in workmanship" is part of our work ethic not a sales pitch. Quality shows.
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anybody have a pic or link of that really small V-8 a Japanese co. built a couple/few years ago? might have been Mitsubishi...
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anybody have a pic or link of that really small V-8 a Japanese co. built a couple/few years ago? might have been Mitsubishi...
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Thanks, Henry

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I love that engine.
Size comparison Zetec and the H1



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There was a story in Racecar Engineering about a guy who owned a metalcasting company and was into UK speed hillclimbing and made the blocks for the twin Hyabusa V8. He was working on several variants for different classes, and also I think different bases like Honda or something more sporty than the Hyabusa. I believe that is what the Ariel Atom V8 is using.
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Yes, it is the Atom engine (Hartley).

2012 Ariel Atom V8 500 - Top Speed
"The V8 is actually derived from mating two Suzuki Hayabusa engines, featuring specifications usually reserved for the track rather than the road. They include a flat-plane crank, dry sump lubrication, forged internals, individual throttle bodies with sequential injection, and a 10,500RPM rev limit! All of this translates into 500HP and 284lbft at 7750RPM – staggering considering the size of the thing."

But if 500hp is not enough...
Jack Frost (Holeshot racing) assembled a mock turbo version of the engine. The small Garrett turbos shown are adaquate for 650 hp at mild boost levels.
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Wow - 30 hrs between rebuilds. It must beat itself to death to get that hp/liter!!! Awesome!

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