Random Spoon Pics Thread

[Craig T]

[HHI944]

That's a beauty! How old?

[Jeff Higgins]

Now we're talking - gotta love those Peacemakers:

[Craig T]

Originally Posted by HHI944

That's a beauty! How old?

1956....First year of 2nd generation. 45 Long Colt. Never been fired

[Craig T]

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins

Now we're talking - gotta love those Peacemakers:

SCHWEEET!!! What years? calibers? BBL lengths?

[Racerbvd]

[Rick V]

Originally Posted by Paul K

Picked this up the other day. Fox/Savage Model B, in 12 ga. 28" barrels. Paid $300 for it.

I have her sister but she can't be had for 300, you did well

[targa911S]

that is an excellent price for an early model B. You can't buy a stevens/ savage M 311 for that much.. ( actually that is what you have there with a different name on it.)

[targa911S]

Originally Posted by Craig T

WOW! I mean WOW!

[Jeff Higgins]

Originally Posted by Craig T

SCHWEEET!!! What years? calibers? BBL lengths?

These are all third gens that I've bought new, and they are all chambered in .45 Colt. They represent the three standard barrel lengths of 4 3/4", 5 1/2", and 7 1/2". They all get fired regularly with one of two of my hand loads: one uses the RCBS .45-270 SAA bullet over 17 grains of 2400, the other uses the Lyman 452664 over 40 grains of Goex FFFG.

The 4 3/4" gun has taken mule dear and antelope, plus a bunch of coyotes, rock chucks, and some grouse. I've had it for almost 30 years; the other two are newer, Turnbull finished specimens. I just got another new 4 3/4" as well.

[Craig T]

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins

These are all third gens that I've bought new, and they are all chambered in .45 Colt. They represent the three standard barrel lengths of 4 3/4", 5 1/2", and 7 1/2". They all get fired regularly with one of two of my hand loads: one uses the RCBS .45-270 SAA bullet over 17 grains of 2400, the other uses the Lyman 452664 over 40 grains of Goex FFFG.

The 4 3/4" gun has taken mule dear and antelope, plus a bunch of coyotes, rock chucks, and some grouse. I've had it for almost 30 years; the other two are newer, Turnbull finished specimens. I just got another new 4 3/4" as well.

Jeff, I love your 3rd Gen SAA collection. I've been looking for a 3rd Gen .45 in 7 1/2 to shoot in my silhoeute matches. I love that gun. I've seen a few nice ones at the Carol Watson auctions. I just need to get my arms around how much they've gone up. They ain't gonna get any cheaper. I need to pull the trigger (no pun intended).

45LC is BY FAR my favorite early pistol caliber to reload. Much easier than 44-40 or 38-40 to be consistent. I use the same load as you at my pistol caliber rifle silouete match...only 250gr FN GC, but the same 17gr A2400. It's a little dirty, but damn is it accurate.

Here's my 45LC rifle. Knocks down a ram with authority. You need a metal detector to find the pistol cal chickens after you hit em

[Craig T]

3rd Sunday of every month if anybody from SoCal wants to join us. No need to join. Visitors welcome. it's all Porsche Owners Club guys.

[sc_rufctr]

Lovin the old school hardware.

Can anyone tell me what rifle Tom Sellick is holding here please? (It's from the Movie "Quigley")



There was some long range shooting in this movie. Tom's character mention using paper patched bullets for this rifle.

[Jeff Higgins]

Quigley is shooting a Model 1874 Sharps chambered in .45-2 7/8". Here is mine (from C. Sharps Arms of Big Timber, Montana), chambered in .45-2.6":





At the dawn of metallic cartridges, they were often designated by caliber and case length, as I did above. Lots of folks today use the caliber and powder capacity, i.e. ".45-70" (actually .45-2.1"), ".45-90" (.45-2.4"), ".45-100" (.45-2.6"), and ".45-110" (.45-2 7/8"). (The .32, .38, .40, .44, and .50 calibers had similarly varying case lengths and capacities, but I'll stick to the .45's to try to explain this). The problem was, for example, the .45-2.4" and .45-2.6" cases, as loaded by Sharps, both often used 100 grains of powder. The ".45-70" was often loaded with 50 or 60 grains of powder, and so on. It turned out to be better to list case length, so customers would know what ammo would chamber. The box would also list the charge in grains, as well as bullet weight in grains.

All Sharps ammo (and Remington rifle ammo) for the big single shots was originally loaded with paper patched bullets. It was really more of a paper jacket, the predecessor of the copper or cupro-nickel jacket. Government ammo for the Springfield was unique in that it used grease groove bullets from the get-go.

[sc_rufctr]

Thanks Jeff

You're a legend. I've been wanting one of these since seeing the movie.

But honestly, How accurate are they? Is the demo in the clip in any way possible?
Also, Can you use one of those long scopes from the same period on these?

[Jeff Higgins]

Originally Posted by Craig T

Jeff, I love your 3rd Gen SAA collection. I've been looking for a 3rd Gen .45 in 7 1/2 to shoot in my silhoeute matches. I love that gun. I've seen a few nice ones at the Carol Watson auctions. I just need to get my arms around how much they've gone up. They ain't gonna get any cheaper. I need to pull the trigger (no pun intended).

45LC is BY FAR my favorite early pistol caliber to reload. Much easier than 44-40 or 38-40 to be consistent. I use the same load as you at my pistol caliber rifle silouete match...only 250gr FN GC, but the same 17gr A2400. It's a little dirty, but damn is it accurate.

Here's my 45LC rifle. Knocks down a ram with authority. You need a metal detector to find the pistol cal chickens after you hit em

Colt still sells Peacemakers, brand new. Wait seems to be about 6-8 months. The price really isn't bad - it's less than one would pay for many factory "custom" 1911's.

I do love the .45 Colt. I think I have about 10-11 guns so chambered, from Peacemakers to the big Rugers. Very easy to reload to a couple of distinctly different performance levels, too. I had Veral Smith cut me a 300 grain mold with the crimp groove placed so they would chamber in full size Blackhawks, but not Peacemakers. No chance of an expensive "oops..." that way.

I tried and tried to like the .44-40 years ago, but have long since sold off the Peacemakers and original '73 I had in that caliber. Just not worth the extra effort to me. Give me carbide dies and nice, thick brass any day. I'd rather shoot than fuss around with hard to reload calibers.

Oh, and check out the Turnbull case colors on this one. He's doing all of Colt's finish work on Peacemakers these days:

[Jeff Higgins]

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr

Thanks Jeff

You're a legend. I've been wanting one of these since seeing the movie.

But honestly, How accurate are they? Is the demo in the clip in any way possible?
Also, Can you use one of those long scopes from the same period on these?

I used to shoot both "mid range" (out to 600 yard) and "long range" (1,000 yard) matches with mine. I have a '75 in .45-2.1 for the "mid range" work, and use the big one for long range.

We shoot on the same target as NRA highpower. At 1,000 yards, the 10 ring is 20" in diameter, the 9 ring is 30", the 8 ring is 44", the 7 ring is 60", and the 6 ring is 72". On a calm day, if you are not holding the 9 and 10 rings, you are not in the game. When the wind blows, though, all bets are off - these things are dramatically affected by the wind. Far more so than modern highpower.

My MVA wingauge front sight has over 40 minutes of adjustment both ways, and my MVA "Buffalo Soule" rear sight must have 40 minutes each way as well. Last time I went to Forsythe, Montana for the annual Quigley shoot, I had the front on the stop one way and the rear most of the way the other way just to stay on their 3/4 scale buffalo at about 900 yards. Even then, my spotter told me to hold into the wind a bit more on a couple of shots. Fun stuff...

Oh, and yes - MVA and other make period correct Malcom scopes in a variety of lengths and magnifications.

[sc_rufctr]

Brilliant, thanks Jeff.

[Bill Douglas]

You sure have some nice stuff Jeff. Thanks for the pics and info.







Who was that chap who said "Don't worry about the English, they are 1,000 yards away."






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[sc_rufctr]

..................... getting all "fizzy"