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$10 barn find this morning. More of an ugly mutt of a track bike that followed me home. Mostly just intrigued with the Maillard 'flip-flop' track/road rear hub. No idea what I'm going to do with it. Also, a box of misc vintage parts.








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$10 barn find this morning. More of an ugly mutt of a track bike that followed me home. Mostly just intrigued with the Maillard 'flip-flop' track/road rear hub. No idea what I'm going to do with it. Also, a box of misc vintage parts.







Very cool, I use to have a Campy hat like that.
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I'd give a ten spot for that bike. It's a little small, but it would make a fun squirt bike for hanging out in the summer with pals....
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That’s a cool find on the parts but I’m showing my age when I say that Nuovo stuff is the new campy stuff that’s not as good as record.

I haven’t tried any of the really new campy stuff but I’m one good lottery ticket away from trying it.
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That’s a cool find on the parts but I’m showing my age when I say that Nuovo stuff is the new campy stuff that’s not as good as record.

I haven’t tried any of the really new campy stuff but I’m one good lottery ticket away from trying it.
Price wise Shimano and SRAM are fast catching up to Campagnolo.
- There's an emerging market for lower priced component brands from Taiwan & China.

The latest 12 speed Dura-Ace Di2 group set is around the same price as the Campagnolo equivalent "Record EPS" but "Super Record EPS" is still more expensive. Also: The latest gravel group set from Campagnolo, EKAR 13 speed is the lightest gravel specific group set and is about the same price as the SRAM & Shimano equivalent.

I've been using Campagnolo products for more than 40 years.

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Campy and I got a divorce after their 8 speed indexed break lever shifter fiasco. I spend the little money I had thinking I am always the loyal Campy man. It didn't work and was disappointed that Campy didn't take care of any of us. Went Shimano and never missed a shifted since. Have 11 DI2 now. Its PDk at it best for 2 wheels.

Anyone tried the latest and greatest Bianchi? Been looking at them. Sure are pretty but at over 10k, I have to think very hard about buying a new bike. Disc breaks are sure nice on our long mt descents.

Peter, you ought to cut the quit on those old Campy pedals. All the cools dudes out this way hacked them off just like the dust caps on those S(t)uper Record cranks. They are the first to go.
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I went from a 6 speed freewheel to nine speed then shortly after 10 speed.
Right now I have 9,10,11 and 12 speed bikes.

Yes Campagnolo service can be frustrating but they're tiny compared to Shimano or SRAM.
- I'm just glad they're still around.
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I went from a 6 speed freewheel to nine speed then shortly after 10 speed.
Right now I have 9,10,11 and 12 speed bikes.

Yes Campagnolo service can be frustrating but they're tiny compared to Shimano or SRAM.
- I'm just glad they're still around.
I still think the old Super Record is the best looking even if the front derailleur looks like a fish. Still it was the best shifting front derailleur up into the middle late 90s. Their fit and finish is second to none, still today.

I raced with 5 spd, freewheels (its all I can afford) but when ultra 6 came out, I gave my left ball for it, saved the whole summer for a 29 dollar freewheel working at a bike shop part time after my 11th grade year. Still have that damn thing. Then it was the ultra 7 that I gave my other nut for. My old Casati now has that 7 spd but I no longer ride it. Like you, I have 9,10 and 11 speed now. I hardly touch my 9 spd bike, a Merlin. The Colnago C40 I love so it gets ridden with my younger boy to our Saturday lunch one or twice a month. Something about the way it rides, the supple feel to it no matter if my tires is at 90 lbs or 110. The difference is tiny unlike the Time. You feel the 100 psi vs 90 but that's my go to bike now.

I am working on stripping and rebuilding a folding bike a friend gave me some time ago. Its torn apart now and will replace the shifter, and a XTR rear derailleur for more accurate and faster shifting. My wife will ride that when we go camping or the beach for lunch. I can't deal with low end sloppy, inaccurate derailleurs.
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Pete, how many campy bikes do you have now? have you tried any of their modern stuff? I haven't heard anything bad, its just not too many people actual ride them. its all Shimano or SRAM now.
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David:That’s a cool find on the parts but I’m showing my age when I say that Nuovo stuff is the new campy stuff that’s not as good as record.

I haven’t tried any of the really new campy stuff but I’m one good lottery ticket away from trying it.


That's good

Life-long Campy user but the Dura-Ace 7400 on my Alpineer is rock solid. That groupo was really the turning point when Dura-Ace not only equaled, but slightly surpassed ,Super Record and Campy has been playing catch up ever since. Although Pogacar's TdF win this year on a Campy-equipped Colnago was pretty cool.



The prices on some of this new stuff is eye-watering. $800 for a new Dura-Ace derailleur ... ouch.
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Peter: love the Bianchi. This is pretty much my daily driver, a 1999 Bianchi with Super Record 9-speed gruppo and Dedacciai tubing.



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[I]... but the Dura-Ace 7400 on my Alpineer is rock solid.
The 7400 RH brifter on my Basso Loto was rock solid until I wore it out, now I've been trying to find a decent used one. I'm afraid of the ones from strangers on ebay, so I keep hoping that providence will provide one in good shape for reasonable money.
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Pete, how many campy bikes do you have now? have you tried any of their modern stuff? I haven't heard anything bad, its just not too many people actual ride them. its all Shimano or SRAM now.
Right now I have four Campagnolo equipped bikes. All with what I would call "modern" equipment.
- I mostly run what you Americans would call "Sewups". We call them Tubs or tubulars in Australia.

1. 10 speed Record, Masi Volumetrica steel Frame. (1992 - Tubulars)
2. 11 speed Super Record EPS, De Rosa steel frame. (1987 - Clinchers for now )
3. 12 speed Super Record, Masi Volumetrica steel frame. (1991 - Tubulars)
4. Paconi steel framed track bike equipped with Campagnolo Pista. (Late 70s - Tubulars)

I also own a Trek flat bar "Dad Bike" that I bought new in 2005 and I'm in the process of converting it into a Gravel bike of sorts. The plan is tubular cycle cross tries and drop bars. It will be equipped with 1 by 9 speed Microshift and some choice "Paul" parts on it. (Paul Component Engineering, Chico California)

Over the years I have bought and sold a lot of bikes and I've never been a collector. I don't know for sure but around 40 bikes and literary hundreds of wheels have passed through my hands. I bought my first carbon frame in 1992 and I've broken three carbon frames so far . I've been building wheels and repairing bikes since I was a teenager. Right now I'm building two bikes for customers. Both Shimano 105 equipped.

So that's it in brief. I could go on and on about my past projects, tools and workshop.
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Peter: love the Bianchi. This is pretty much my daily driver, a 1999 Bianchi with Super Record 9-speed gruppo and Dedacciai tubing.

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Just perfect the way it is!

BTW: Bianchi are moving their frame manufacturing back to Italy. Right now their frames are made in Vietnam but the new factory is being built in Italy as I type this.
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Need some help doing some archaeology on this 'track' bike. Originally, I assumed it was a low-end department store frame of some sort. Now I'm starting to think it is a nice quality early 1960s road frame (as I research early frame pics I'm starting to think 1950s now). This is based mainly on the long wheelbase and the lug work. The bike is quite light. There is a serial number JM709387 on the seat tube. Original color was light blue. There is no derailleur hanger but I think these were a separate piece on this age bike. There are drilled holes for a head badge. My bike knowledge starts in the 70s and I'm pretty sure this pre-dates that.












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Campy and I got a divorce after their 8 speed indexed break lever shifter fiasco.
Oh have I got a drawerful of ziplocked bagged broken campy record brake/shifter goodies to show you!!!!!

In the end, I started pulling aluminum index shifters from my chorus and mounting them on my Carbon record brake shifter combos. I would even change 9 speed indente cogs to 10 speed cogs to interchange the shifter. Everythings working so far.... but I agree, it's BS.

edit- one friend of mine who liked to shift "spiritedly" would trash even shimano shifter/brake combos. Once he switched to that blue tooth fly by wire tap e tap stuff, his troubles stopped.


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