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Richard Windsor 03-05-2013 04:09 PM

I'd be interested in seeing pics of the rocker covers, pedals, etc. for assessment of the mileage. And thank you for posting what you already have already.

I am NOT interested in seeing the thread get derailed by pwd-was-a-72s.

Zeke 03-05-2013 04:33 PM

Well, I feel privileged. I'm going to see the car and eat my padding. ;) We'll call it 911 pudding.

I've read the pros and cons here and I'm afraid I started the cons. What I and others have to understand is that a Bugatti was taken from under water not that long ago. It was in terrible shape, if that, with around 20 % of the car being salvageable. Yet, it was a low mileage car. As the story goes, it was nearly new when pushed into the lake where it lived for over 70 years.

Apparently, mileage and condition are not necessarily absolutely mutual.

126coupe 03-05-2013 04:35 PM

Thank you Milt the nay sayers will eat crow, amazing.

126coupe 03-05-2013 04:36 PM

I guess I will interview the seller video tape it and quiet down the minions ;)

RWebb 03-05-2013 04:44 PM

Tell us your plans - concours? period correct? hot rod?

Dan J 03-05-2013 04:45 PM

This is no way to treat the man that started the "Chest thread"
I bet this car turns out great, It's in good hands

onewhippedpuppy 03-05-2013 04:49 PM

Quote:

I am NOT interested in seeing the thread get derailed by pwd-was-a-72s.
Rofl, and more than happy to remind us of it.

Shaun @ Tru6 03-05-2013 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 7311085)
Well, I feel privileged. I'm going to see the car and eat my padding. ;) We'll call it 911 pudding.

I've read the pros and cons here and I'm afraid I started the cons. What I and others have to understand is that a Bugatti was taken from under water not that long ago. It was in terrible shape, if that, with around 20 % of the car being salvageable. Yet, it was a low mileage car. As the story goes, it was nearly new when pushed into the lake where it lived for over 70 years.

Apparently, mileage and condition are not necessarily absolutely mutual.

Indeed, when a car sits in a field in TX for 20 years, it just doesn't look like it's only gone 71K miles.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1362534516.jpg

Zeke 03-05-2013 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 7311107)
Tell us your plans - concours? period correct? hot rod?

I think he said he would return the car to it's original splendor.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan J (Post 7311108)
This is no way to treat the man that started the "Chest thread"
I bet this car turns out great, It's in good hands

Hear, hear.

pwd72s 03-05-2013 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 7311162)
I think he said he would return the car to it's original splendor.

I sincerely hope he pulls it off...but OMG it's going to take a TON of work and a lot of money.

RWebb 03-05-2013 05:23 PM

Very true.

"original splendor" could be something short of concours too, esp. the way concours winning is done nowadays.

Shaun @ Tru6 03-05-2013 05:33 PM

The hardest part of this restoration will be finding a correct, NOS dash. Otherwise it looks straightforward and relatively easy. With $20K in the engine, $20K in the body and $7K in the interior, it's probably a $60K checkbook restoration if there really is no rust.

speeder 03-05-2013 05:37 PM

Unless he sends it to someone like John Willhoit, in which case it will be a $200k+ resto.

Zeke 03-05-2013 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pwd72s (Post 7311165)
I sincerely hope he pulls it off...but OMG it's going to take a TON of work and a lot of money.

You haven't been tracking Magnus Walker. He pulls the car down and sends the body out for paint. He assembles the car with his choice of parts which can be purchased easily new or refurbished.

If I had a 40,000 mile car to do, I would divide the project into 3 areas of endevor: body, mechanicals and interior. A qualified interior specialist could do that car over in a week. The paint work can be done in not that much more of a time frame depending on how much direct time is devoted to that particular car. 2 men full time should be able to turn that car back out of the paint shop in 2 weeks. Assembly of the body trim and mechanicals can take as long as you want it to. But, in all reality, most shouldn't take more than another 2 weeks.

But that's hustling big time and that method is not a lot of fun. Magnus likes to sit and look at his latest project and enjoy it while he conjures up what he might otherwise do. I, myself, liked to keep the pressure on during the dozen or so projects I have done. But I never disliked stopping before turning the lights out and gazing at what had been done.

For Mark, this becomes the latest resident of the shop. As a resident, it has full privileges to develop as he wishes. Money is a product of time and energy working both ways.

pwd72s 03-05-2013 06:16 PM

Good point, Milt...I suppose we all look at a car like this through our own eyes...how we'd do it. Or in my case..not. Just looking at the pics, I see stuff I'd consider "unobtainum"...such as the dash mentioned earlier. But hey, I've been out of the early 911 loop for nearly 5 years now...stuff is coming on the market all the time.

azasadny 03-05-2013 06:28 PM

Wow, what an incredible find! I'm really looking forward to following the progress!!

Steve Carlton 03-05-2013 07:39 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1362544747.jpg

126coupe 03-05-2013 07:47 PM

Been around show cars, restorations since I could walk. This car will be a concours, white glove type. I don't care what it costs, the plan is to show it a year drive it weekly, road trips, and club events. I will never sell it, just an addition to the collection. Ossi Blue will look great in the cave, along with red and white. Only the best craftsmen will touch it, before I even found the car I already knew who the painter, upholster, mechanic would be. I'm not a newbie at this, been involved in all my dad's restorations since I was very young. Honestly a 911S is much easier to restore than anything we have done in the past.

Steve Carlton 03-05-2013 07:51 PM

I'd be curious what you paid for it (and totally understand if you don't want to disclose that). What do you figure your restoration is going to cost and what do you think it'll be worth in the end.

Is there any documentation to show the miles are original? I would think a buyer at over $100K would want to see something convincing, or if not, how much less is it worth with miles unknown? You mentioned the leakdown supported 40K miles? What was it?

What's your motivation? A little coin, the fun of it, to see a car like this brought back? I look forward to see this car come back to life, too. Good luck!

126coupe 03-05-2013 08:01 PM

I paid a fair price, I am thinking 40-50K+ to make her perfect, the car should be worth 120K to 150K, i believe these 911S's will continue to appreciate rapidly evidenced by the marketplace, hell my 300SL Gullwing has almost tripled in 3 years:) The value does not matter only to my heirs:) I drive all the hard and frequently. The mileage is evidenced by the original owner. Still brainstorming with the engine builder whether to even tear down the engine, I'm inclined to peak inside.


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