Devil in Ohio...

[DARISC]

Originally Posted by john70t

Disagree. Reform back to a good human status and a potential productive member of society, or kill in limited extreme cases.

Why waste $ on torture unless you're stoning in in Times Square?
Others by policy have done more damage to humanity.

Agree that, in this case, kill (if the death penalty is lawful) or permanently remove from society.

To point out to "patriots", who tend to allow their emotions to "go medieval" and overwhelm their concern that the Constitution is being torn asunder by those with whom they disagree politically:

"The Eighth Amendment (Amendment VIII) to the United States Constitution is the part of the United States Bill of Rights (ratified 1789) prohibiting the federal government from imposing excessive bail, excessive fines or cruel and unusual punishments, including torture. The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that this amendment's Cruel and Unusual Punishment Clause applies to the states. The phrases employed originated in the English Bill of Rights of 1689."
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[VINMAN]

The word "reform" shouldn't even be brought up in this topic.