Gun Nuts - Advice Needed

[Eric Coffey]

Originally Posted by matt711

20' is a very long distance to engage from with a pistol. Most pistol engagementes occur at around 7 feet. If a bad guy is 20' away you are probably not in a legal use of deadly force situation. Unless the bad guy is armed with a long gun and aiming it at you and in that case your probably toast anyway.

If a bad-guy is within 20-ft, you are probably toast. In other words, 20-ft is well within a justifiable use-of-force "boundary" IMO. Ever hear of the 21-ft. rule? Basically, the average distance a person can cover (and reach you) while coming at you with a knife, before you have time to draw and fire your weapon, is 21 feet. So, if you wait until an attacker is within 20-ft, it's probably too late for you to effectively draw your weapon and shoot.

[targa911S]

still at 20 feet you'll have a lot of explaining to do.

[Jeff Higgins]

Originally Posted by targa911S

still at 20 feet you'll have a lot of explaining to do.

Yup. And a 20 foot shot in an average home is pretty darn unlikely.

Again, many in-home defensive shootings involve physical contact between the assailant and the occupant. This is far more difficult with a shotgun than with a sidearm that can be held back out of the assailant's reach while the homeowner essentially stiffarms him.

[Tobra]

The wife does like the little 5 shot .38 S&W I got her for Christmas the first year we were married, scored a lot of points with the father in law too. Second she got the paper off it he sees that little plastic case and says, "Far out." She says, "What." He recognized what it was immediately, she had to open the box and look.

I was thinking I was going to need to get her a little 9 when I got my Mini 14, now it looks like a little compact one for me. Single stack, Sig 938 looks pretty good.

[regency]

Tobra, check out the Sig P232 SL, 380 or 9mm kurz ( short ), sweet rig.

1973 911 T MFI Coupe, Aubergine

Steve

[flipper35]

Originally Posted by Eric Coffey

If a bad-guy is within 20-ft, you are probably toast. In other words, 20-ft is well within a justifiable use-of-force "boundary" IMO. Ever hear of the 21-ft. rule? Basically, the average distance a person can cover (and reach you) while coming at you with a knife, before you have time to draw and fire your weapon, is 21 feet. So, if you wait until an attacker is within 20-ft, it's probably too late for you to effectively draw your weapon and shoot.

My take on that is you should have your weapon out ready to shoot before they get that close to you, you shouldn't be clearing the house with a holstered weapon. Then 21' is a lot farther away. You could get at least two shots in if they rush you at that point.

[J P Stein]

I lust for a Mustang.....Colt, not Pony.....in .380. No plastic here.

[J P Stein]

Colt .380. .....

[red-beard]

I have the 1903 and the 1922 in .380ACP

They are nice. I keep trying to find a "wreck" which I wouldn't mind doing a strip, polish and robar coating job.

[nostatic]

I have one of these. My wife likes to shoot this one too. Will eat .38/.357 and is 7-shot. 4" barrel is a nice compromise length.

[fred cook]

If it is a Colt 380 then it is a 1908, not a 1903.

I have the 1903 and the 1922 in .380ACP



They are nice. I keep trying to find a "wreck" which I wouldn't mind doing a strip, polish and robar coating job.

[targa911S]

Originally Posted by J P Stein

Colt .380. .....

hey I have that gun! Mine has elephant ivory on her though.

[targa911S]

Originally Posted by red-beard

I have the 1903 and the 1922 in .380ACP

They are nice. I keep trying to find a "wreck" which I wouldn't mind doing a strip, polish and robar coating job.

the 1903 is a 1908 if it's in .380

Like this..

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[targa911S]

1903 is a .32 like this...

[red-beard]

Yes, but we also call the Pocket Vest in .25ACP the 1908.

Technically, the .32ACP and the .380ACP are the M1903 and M1908, respectively.

And a Browning 1910 was used to start WWI



I have a later model, the 1922

[targa911S]

love those James. I would like to add one to my collection as well some day. Very nice.

[red-beard]

A lot of the 1922's were made for the Nazis in WWII by FN, under occupation.

[targa911S]

the ORTGIES is also very similar in design.

[red-beard]

That looks like a complete ripoff

[targa911S]

Ortgies Semi-Automatic Pistol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia