'Please Don't Shoot Me': Dog Walker Begs for Life Before Deadly Shooting

[t-tom]

Originally Posted by cantdrv55

If three white teenagers executed a black man, it would be a hate crime.

And it would be all over the news! It would be on the Front page of every newspaper around. People would be looting stores and dancing in the streets.

Originally Posted by cantdrv55

If three white teenagers executed a black man, it would be a hate crime.

That's certainly how Sharpton/Jackson/BhO would sell their racist agenda.

[Head416]

In this thread we have calls for hanging and dragging teenagers behind a car. You really feel comfortable calling for KKK-style retribution? All while claiming white men are victims of hate crimes?

A man was murdered. Find the killer(s), have a trial.

[varmint]

Originally Posted by Head416

In this thread we have calls for hanging and dragging teenagers behind a car. You really feel comfortable calling for KKK-style retribution? All while claiming white men are victims of hate crimes?

A man was murdered. Find the killer(s), have a trial.

lethal injection then. whatever it takes for you to unbunch.


will skim msnbc npr etc today to see if this gets any coverage.

[McLovin]

Originally Posted by Mark Wilson

There's no such thing as a hate crime.

Seems like all crimes like assaults, murders, etc. are hate crimes. Or, at least, they're not love crimes.

Anyways, the media seems silent on this particular heinous and cold-blooded crime, I haven't seen or heard it anywhere, would not have known about it except for PPOT.

Unlike that drunk guy at University of Virginia that got tackled by campus alcohol control and got a small cut on his head. That was for some reason national news.

[911SauCy]

Philly is a dump.

[rusnak]

Originally Posted by Baz

I'm not an expert in law but don't think this is a hate crime.

However....it seems to be a first-degree murder offense. A capitol crime - punishable by death.

If the murderer is tried and hanged in public within' a short period of time - say one month - does that give a percentage of other potential criminals pause before they commit their crime?

I can't say that it is or isn't a hate crime. But I can say that there is no sense in responding with hate or playing the race card now, even if it IS a hate crime.

I saw this last night, and couldn't bring myself to respond, I was so stricken with sadness.

All I can do is pray for the victim, his daughter, and his family, including that poor dog.

[DanielDudley]

I'm pretty sure I have heard all of this, from the same old bunch, pretty much at least a hundred times. Go over to PARF, and #### each other silly.



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[Baz]

Originally Posted by Z-man

Speaking of...where is Al Sharpton and his entourage now? Is he not outraged at this racist hate crime? A person killed another in cold blood for no apparent reason.---snip---
-Z-man.

Z-man:

How can a crime be called a "racist hate crime" if it is committed for (your words) "no apparent reason"?

Don't you have to "hate" someone when you commit the crime for it to be a "hate" crime?

This punk said they "decided just to go kill someone". They didn't say they were out for a white guy.

Like I said before.....this is "premeditation" not "hate".

I welcome input from anyone more familiar with the law.

[Z-man]

Originally Posted by Baz

Z-man:

How can a crime be called a "racist hate crime" if it is committed for (your words) "no apparent reason"?

Don't you have to "hate" someone when you commit the crime for it to be a "hate" crime?

This punk said they "decided just to go kill someone". They didn't say they were out for a white guy.

Like I said before.....this is "premeditation" not "hate".

I welcome input from anyone more familiar with the law.

I should have used green font...

My point is this: had it been three white teenagers that killed a black man walking his dog, it would have immediately been called a racist hate crime by Sharpton and his cohorts.

-Z

[Baz]

Originally Posted by Z-man

I should have used green font...

My point is this: had it been three white teenagers that killed a black man walking his dog, it would have immediately been called a racist hate crime by Sharpton and his cohorts.

-Z

OK I understand now - it was sarcasm. Yes - please use green font....I need it to interpret what folks are saying.

I just think "hate crime" is way over used - as well as misapplied.

Thanks!

[daepp]

Just searched for "Stuhlman" or "Philadelphia":
NPR - no hits on either
MSNBC - no hits on either
Fox - both hit the story
Yahoo - scrolled through several pages and never saw the story

[foxpaws]

Originally Posted by Baz

I'm not an expert in law but don't think this is a hate crime.

However....it seems to be a first-degree murder offense. A capitol crime - punishable by death.

If the murderer is tried and hanged in public within' a short period of time - say one month - does that give a percentage of other potential criminals pause before they commit their crime?

Doubtful that a quick, public execution would make much difference in crime rate - states with the death penalty don't have smaller homicide rates. Plus, do you think these kids watch TV news, doubtful. Add to that almost no one commits murder thinking a) they will be caught and b) mulls over the consequences of the death penalty prior to committing the murder if they do get caught.

What is humorous here - the people who tie Holder, Sharpton and Obama as somehow 'responsible' for the 'irresponsibility' of the youth who committed this terrible crime. I bet the kids probably don't even know who Holder and Sharpton are, and probably have only a 'he is president' (if we are lucky) answer to who Obama is.

[Baz]

Originally Posted by foxpaws

Doubtful that a quick, public execution would make much difference in crime rate - states with the death penalty don't have smaller homicide rates. Plus, do you think these kids watch TV news, doubtful. Add to that almost no one commits murder thinking a) they will be caught and b) mulls over the consequences of the death penalty prior to committing the murder if they do get caught.

What is humorous here - the people who tie Holder, Sharpton and Obama as somehow 'responsible' for the 'irresponsibility' of the youth who committed this terrible crime. I bet the kids probably don't even know who Holder and Sharpton are, and probably have only a 'he is president' (if we are lucky) answer to who Obama is.

I'm sure as you said that many will not be dissuaded from their criminal activities by seeing a swifter and more visible punishment than what we currently have. However there could be a percentage who do. I wouldn't mind doing an experiment to see how it works. But I'm not in charge so fat chance it would happen.

Regarding the inclusion of Holder, Obama, Sharpton - my interpretation is the disdain is how vocal they are when blacks are killed by whites but not the reverse. I don't really care about that (political) aspect myself. My focus is let's string these hood rats up and let's do it pronto!

But again - fat chance that will happen.

[ckelly78z]

If three white kids got bored and went out and killed an older black man, it would certainly be a top news story for the day, and riots would ensue, buildings would get burned to the ground, and people would gather, and speak loudly through megaphones to magnify the atrocities committed in hate by those three KKK white dogs.

So why can't white people gather in groups, riot, burn down buildings, speak loudly through megaphones, and do as others have done to protest the senseless killing of this poor man, or have we been brow-beaten into submission by the loud mouthed, reverands of color.........just saying what everyone wonders.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Quote de cantdrv55

If three white teenagers executed a black man, it would be a hate crime.

That's certainly how Sharpton/Jackson/BhO would sell their racist agenda.

Amen. Some of the biggest racists on the planet. It keeps them from actually working for a living.

[Baz]

Originally Posted by ckelly78z

If three white kids got bored and went out and killed an older black man, it would certainly be a top news story for the day, and riots would ensue, buildings would get burned to the ground, and people would gather, and speak loudly through megaphones to magnify the atrocities committed in hate by those three KKK white dogs.

So why can't white people gather in groups, riot, burn down buildings, speak loudly through megaphones, and do as others have done to protest the senseless killing of this poor man, or have we been brow-beaten into submission by the loud mouthed, reverands of color.........just saying what everyone wonders.

Sadly most blacks do not behave like what we saw ad naseum in Ferguson, etc. - most blacks would never do such crap. But thanks to the MEDIA and the RHETORIC of black "so-called" leaders including Obama, Holder, and Sharpton.....we only see DIVISION, HATRED, and VIOLENCE.

These are what sells papers (or clicks on a website).

I've said it before and I'll say it again - we need better role models in front of the camera - and we need to hear from them EVERY DAY.

I'm waiting for the day that one of our political "so-called" civil rights leaders does this at the first sign of misbehaviour......and get in front of the camera and say "Cut it out and cut it out right NOW or we're going to toss you in the slammer and throw away the key!"



It ridiculous how pedestrian we are with crime in our country.

[72doug2,2S]

Originally Posted by foxpaws

Doubtful that a quick, public execution would make much difference in crime rate - states with the death penalty don't have smaller homicide rates. Plus, do you think these kids watch TV news, doubtful. Add to that almost no one commits murder thinking a) they will be caught and b) mulls over the consequences of the death penalty prior to committing the murder if they do get caught.

What is humorous here - the people who tie Holder, Sharpton and Obama as somehow 'responsible' for the 'irresponsibility' of the youth who committed this terrible crime. I bet the kids probably don't even know who Holder and Sharpton are, and probably have only a 'he is president' (if we are lucky) answer to who Obama is.

Probably right Paws, they are likely Romney supporters and certainly consequences have never been a motivation for good behavior. These little angels simply made a wrong choice like grabbing the shredded wheat instead of the Lucky Charms.

[VINMAN]

I would want to see them strapped in a chair and fried, just as much if they were white. Skin color doesn't make anyone more or less of a worthless POS.

[black_falcon]

Heartbreaking on many levels. Just like the many other senseless killings like it.

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