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sc_rufctr 07-16-2015 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pcardude (Post 8713687)
I think it would be cool if it came out that it was faked just so those of you calling people idiots would feel like idiots.

I think you should re think what is actually cool.

ckissick 07-16-2015 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 8713576)
New Moon Landing Sites Photos Are So Sharp They Show Detailed Rover Tire Marks

Oh yeah, I'm sure this is faked too. Gimme a break...

Earth will be around for billions more years. Humans, probably not. It seems fairly likely that there will be a new intelligent species roaming the earth some day. And some day, they will get their first clear images of the moon's surface, and see tire tracks and a landing module. Imagine the stir that will cause.

Steve Carlton 07-16-2015 06:34 PM

They'll think their own equipment did it when they're putting up condos there.

911_Dude 07-16-2015 06:45 PM

SO many idiots in the world

WolfeMacleod 07-17-2015 12:24 AM

Speaking of moon landing conspiracies, graphics card maker Nvidia used new light source modelling to show that it was, indeed, possible. Debunks the "wrong lighting" nuts. Pretty cool stuff.

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javadog 07-17-2015 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by pcardude (Post 8713687)
I think it would be cool if it came out that it was faked just so those of you calling people idiots would feel like idiots.

Sadly for you, this will never happen, so make sure you get properly fitted for your dunce hat, as you will be wearing it a long time. Wouldn't want it to be too tight, you know.

This is one case where a little education might help. There's no shortage of very interesting books on the space program. Read a few, a little education often clears up misconceptions like yours. You might think a moon landing was impossible but knowing how they did it might impress you.

JR

Holger 07-17-2015 04:59 AM

For years the scientists are showing us how other galaxies are looking, galaxies, black holes, and so on, and now we celebrate the pics of Pluto? WTF? Why didnt they take pics of that long time ago, with Hubble or so? Why did we have to send a probe flying 9 years?

Cmon!

javadog 07-17-2015 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Holger (Post 8714197)
For years the scientists are showing us how other galaxies are looking, galaxies, black holes, and so on, and now we celebrate the pics of Pluto? WTF? Why didnt they take pics of that long time ago, with Hubble or so? Why did we have to send a probe flying 9 years?

Cmon!

Well, the answer to that question is fairly easy. All you have to do is find a description on the internet of what the mission consists of, and you will realize that it's not just about taking a picture of Pluto. Might take you two minutes.

Then there's the whole other argument that Pluto's a little ways away, more than you think, and a picture taken by the Hubble would be worthless compared to a picture taken by this probe.

JR

javadog 07-17-2015 05:10 AM

Pluto, pic taken by Hubble:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1437134965.jpg

New pic of Pluto:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1437134994.jpg

But, like I said, it's not just about a picture of Pluto...

Steve Carlton 07-17-2015 05:33 AM

It's funny that Pluto was officially a planet when the New Horizons spacecraft was launched. Now, not so much.

Holger 07-17-2015 05:35 AM

:)

Ok, so other galaxies are closer to us then Pluto? Of them we can get clear and sharp images, but for Pluto we have to send a probe.

Or are the photos of other galaxies just what they (or theire computers) THINK they look like?!


Anyways, I am just fed up with this "We have to discover how everything began", money wasting crap.

javadog 07-17-2015 05:47 AM

Other galaxies are larger than Pluto...

Hint, hint.

Given where you live, not sure how your money got wasted.

onewhippedpuppy 07-17-2015 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by pcardude (Post 8713687)
I think it would be cool if it came out that it was faked just so those of you calling people idiots would feel like idiots.

Having taken several courses on the topic and having a very high level understanding of the science involved, I'll take my chances, thanks.

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Originally Posted by Holger (Post 8714236)
:)

Ok, so other galaxies are closer to us then Pluto? Of them we can get clear and sharp images, but for Pluto we have to send a probe.

Or are the photos of other galaxies just what they (or theire computers) THINK they look like?!


Anyways, I am just fed up with this "We have to discover how everything began", money wasting crap.

Yeah, because nothing is more pointless than advancing our understanding of the universe that surrounds us. It's all science, what has science ever done for me?:rolleyes:

I would strongly suggest that you research the everyday conveniences that you probably enjoy that are thanks to the space program. I would also suggest that you research the budget of NASA vs the greater federal budget as well as many other government programs. They are a TINY fraction of our budget, and do amazing things for very little money.

scottmandue 07-17-2015 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ckissick (Post 8713832)
Earth will be around for billions more years. Humans, probably not. It seems fairly likely that there will be a new intelligent species roaming the earth some day. And some day, they will get their first clear images of the moon's surface, and see tire tracks and a landing module. Imagine the stir that will cause.

I doubt the cockroaches will care a whole lot.

IROC 07-17-2015 09:12 AM

The general public is skeptical of scientific endeavors simply because they don't have an understanding of where mankind is at from a science and engineering standpoint. They can't understand how it would be possible to actually put someone on the Moon and so they assume that since they can't understand it - no one can. Hence the conspiracy theories.

Right here where I work we accelerate negatively charged hydrogen ions to about 90% of the speed of light, strip the electrons off to leave only the protons, pack these protons into bunches of about 1x10^14 protons each and then fire these pulses of protons at a liquid mercury target at a rate of 60 times a second to produce neutrons that then get moderated by liquid hydrogen. Pretty much every step of the process is outside the understanding of the general public (most present company excluded, of course ;)) and yet we do it every day...

flipper35 07-17-2015 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by gorthar (Post 8713172)
I believe I read that at it's peak, 500,000 people (all the contractors, etc) were employed by the Apollo program.

My favorite moon hoax clip, Bart Sibrel getting in Buzz Aldrin's grill about being a "liar, a coward and a thief" and getting belted upside the head. Never gets old.


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I love the sound he makes the second time he says thief when the fist connects.

flipper35 07-17-2015 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Holger (Post 8714197)
For years the scientists are showing us how other galaxies are looking, galaxies, black holes, and so on, and now we celebrate the pics of Pluto? WTF? Why didnt they take pics of that long time ago, with Hubble or so? Why did we have to send a probe flying 9 years?

Cmon!

Try here: Why can Hubble get detailed views of distant galaxies but not of Pluto? | The Planetary Society

scottmandue 07-17-2015 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by flipper35 (Post 8714675)

Yeah but what if they used a flash? :D

mreid 07-17-2015 09:51 AM

Forget these conspiracy whackos.

That Buzz has a mean right cross! That's when men were men...

Pazuzu 07-17-2015 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Holger (Post 8714236)
:)

Ok, so other galaxies are closer to us then Pluto? Of them we can get clear and sharp images, but for Pluto we have to send a probe.

Or are the photos of other galaxies just what they (or theire computers) THINK they look like?!


Anyways, I am just fed up with this "We have to discover how everything began", money wasting crap.

I enjoyed wasting your money in return for faking images of galaxies and crap. Thanks!

Oh, I mean, when people say stuff like that it's a personal affront to me and everyone who worked hard to help you and others learn just a bit more about the Universe you live in. Sorry we bothered.


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