UFOs and Nukes"

[BK911]

I believe.
Only explanation that makes sense to me explaining how the pyramids and other structures were built.
Watch ancient aliens with an open mind.
A lot of fluff, but some very interesting stuff too.

[RKDinOKC]

If you look at the ancient Egyptian drawings of people. The "slaves" look normal, the overseers have what look like hats giving them elongated "cone heads". They are saying those weren't just hats, that they actually had elongated heads because they were either extraterrestrials or offspring of them.

[sc_rufctr]

(I watched the video) Why didn't SAC or the Air Force setup film cameras at their missile silo sites when these visits were occurring?
If they did were's the footage? Instead they sent enlisted men up to have a look and yet none of them had a camera and not one decent photo has been leaked out.

What I really don't understand is if they can travel across our galaxy to get here why can't they avoid our radar?
Why can't they make their ships and light beams invisible to us? It just seems goofy that they'd be so technically advanced and yet they don't have any stealth tech.

Having said that. I don't believe we are alone in the Universe. There are/have been other advanced civilizations but they're so far away we'll most likely never encounter them.

And because of the vast distances there may be no overlap of civilizations in time. There's a good chance there have been others but they're long gone.
In the distant future we'll be gone as well and who will know we were ever here?

Imagine 1 or 2 billion years from now. That amount if time is of no consequence in our Universe.
What will our Earth look like? What would be left of our civilization?

If you could go into hibernation for a 1,000 years what would the world look like when you woke up?

I've always been fascinated with this stuff but if you want me to believe Aliens have visited us show me some evidence.

Can someone post one good non blurry photo of one of these crafts?

[RKDinOKC]

You just aren't getting into the conspiracy mindset.

Any real evidence somehow disappears, Men in Black style. Or is discredited.

There is an underground base on the dark side of the moon with a little over 1000 inhabitants. There is also an underground base on Mars with just over 30,000 inhabitants. And they do not have the limits of travel that we now have. A trip to Mars only takes a few minutes. And those bases include earth born people as well.

And don't pay any attention to the reports being contradictory. That is part of the misinformation coverup thing.

It's a conspiracy!

[BK911]

The Egyptian pyramids are truly fascinating.
They documented EVERYTHING, but how they built these incredible structures? Ok.

But the structures in Cusco Peru are even more fascinating.
Stones as big as the ones in Egypt, and fit together just as well, but are irregular shaped.
How do you do that with sticks?
Bus sized stones quarried from the top of one mountain, crossed a huge lake, and used to build a temple on the top of another mountain. All before math and written language, and before the wheel!!
Seriously?!?!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saksaywaman

[jamesnmlaw]

I wonder which is worse: We're the only thing in the universe or there's something bigger/better/badder. I hope we're the only thing. I don't want to be eaten or enslaved or exterminated. And, I don't want us to do that to anything out there.

[GH85Carrera]

The universe is truly unimaginably BIG. There are trillions of planets just in our galaxy and more galaxies than we can count. In all that there must be other intelligence. They are just too far away.

Lets assume some really advanced civilization has done what Einstein and all the laws of physics say is simple impossible and can travel faster than light by many orders of magnitude and can really travel to other stars systems, what would they want us for? There are more planets available that anyone can imagine. It is like saying I have to have that one tiny speck of dust floating in your house rather than any other of the near infinite specks of dust on the planet.

Why come all the way here when we are just another grain of sand on the beach on a beach that is the size of Jupiter.

There is not even the slightest hint of evidence of extraterrestrials that have visited earth. Governments can't keep anything secret that long, heck they can't keep anything secret very long.

[jamesnmlaw]

[RKDinOKC]

Okay, here is one of the consipracy theories that explains why the extraterrestrials have interest in our planet, but don't want to be found out.

There are 21 different civilizations within contact distance of our System.
Eons ago one of the civilizations was deemed bad for the other civilizations.
They were placed on and restricted to a large planet in our solar system in hopes they would rebilitate.
They continued their bad ways, and eventually developed space travel which threatened the other civilizations.
The civilizations decided to destroy the planet the bad civilization as inhabiting.
Some of the bad civilization escaped to live underground on the moons of Saturn before their planet was destroyed.
The asteroid belt is the evidence of their planet being destroyed.
Some of that bad civilization, or offspring of, migrated to Earth and control what is going on.
Some say they are the illuminati. Or illuminaughty <- I added that last bit.
They are hiding not from the native earth peoples, but from the other Civilizations.
The other civilizations secretly visit because they fear the bad civilization is influencing Earth's development.
Some say we may even be indirect descendants of the original bad civilization though there are still some pure bred in hiding.

Sound like a good book, movie, or mini-series?

[GH85Carrera]

That is almost as silly at the L. Ron Hubbard's start of Scientology. Trillions of years ago! and volcanoes and bla bla bla. He had to be on serious drugs to make that up.

[tabs]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

That is almost as silly at the L. Ron Hubbard's start of Scientology. Trillions of years ago! and volcanoes and bla bla bla. He had to be on serious drugs to make that up.

It is called being a Progressive Liberal Democrat. Obama and Bernie have millions of em supporting them...

Obama is an extraterrestrial Alien..and Nancy Pelosi was abducted by Aliens.

[JD159]

Originally Posted by RKDinOKC

Okay, here is one of the consipracy theories that explains why the extraterrestrials have interest in our planet, but don't want to be found out.

There are 21 different civilizations within contact distance of our System.
Eons ago one of the civilizations was deemed bad for the other civilizations.
They were placed on and restricted to a large planet in our solar system in hopes they would rebilitate.
They continued their bad ways, and eventually developed space travel which threatened the other civilizations.
The civilizations decided to destroy the planet the bad civilization as inhabiting.
Some of the bad civilization escaped to live underground on the moons of Saturn before their planet was destroyed.
The asteroid belt is the evidence of their planet being destroyed.
Some of that bad civilization, or offspring of, migrated to Earth and control what is going on.
Some say they are the illuminati. Or illuminaughty <- I added that last bit.
They are hiding not from the native earth peoples, but from the other Civilizations.
The other civilizations secretly visit because they fear the bad civilization is influencing Earth's development.
Some say we may even be indirect descendants of the original bad civilization though there are still some pure bred in hiding.

Sound like a good book, movie, or mini-series?

I heard they felt that microwaved food is repulsive and couldn't stand the 911 price bubble.

[rcooled]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

Lets assume some really advanced civilization has done what Einstein and all the laws of physics say is simply impossible and can travel faster than light by many orders of magnitude and can really travel to other star systems, what would they want us for? Why come all the way here when we are just another grain of sand on a beach that is the size of Jupiter.

Good point. Just take a look at how & why previously unknown areas of our own planet were colonized by the "advanced" civilizations of Europe back in the 16th and 17th centuries. Compared to the Native Americans at that time, the Europeans were as technologically advanced as we might imagine an extraterrestrial civilization to be beyond us today. When the Americas were "discovered", the voyagers did nothing to conceal themselves from the locals. Nor did they just drop in to build a few structures and then never come back. Quite the opposite in many cases. Indigenous people were exterminated or enslaved during an all-out quest for riches and resources that only gained momentum as time passed. These early voyages of discovery weren't funded and undertaken on a whim, but rather to hopefully find a source of riches and power for the countries sponsoring them.
Why would an alien civilization ever bother coming to our Earth? I would imagine for some of the same reasons that Europeans first came to the Americas. For something of value to them, like natural resources...or maybe to establish an outpost on their frontier. I sincerely doubt that any advanced extraterrestrial civilization would invest the time, effort, and resources to travel billions of miles merely to rile up the locals with some flashing lights in the night sky. Surely they have better things to do.

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

The universe is truly unimaginably BIG. There are trillions of planets just in our galaxy and more galaxies than we can count. In all that there must be other intelligence. They are just too far away.

I agree. The distances involved are mind-boggling indeed.

[GH85Carrera]

They are not coming billions of miles unless you mean billions of trillions of miles.
The reason Europeans looked for new lands and riches was the areas they were in were taken. If the could just go to an area with no people fighting back they would. There is virtually unlimited resources out in the asteroid belt. No one to fight with over the asteroids. Free for the taking. All the water and metals anyone can gather up.

[Seahawk]

I have seen UFO's for extended periods of time twice.

Key descriptor is UFO.

However, to completely disdain the idea that our current understanding of physics is penultimate of hubris.

Humans can't live at speeds beyond 25 miles per hour. 1800's. Trains, planes and automobiles a week later.

There is a wall in the sky. Just 70 years ago. Moon landing 22 years later.

Pluto is a Planet. Hubble. Not so fast. The Hubble completely changed our understanding of our solar system. One telescope in upper Earth orbit. Whoo!

Eggs are good for you. Eggs are bad for you. Eggs are good for you.

Hubris.

I saw and experienced what I did, with others. No aliens, no probing and no explanation: I was there, you were not. Make fun of my experience at your peril.

[tabs]

Originally Posted by rcooled

Good point. Just take a look at how & why previously unknown areas of our own planet were colonized by the "advanced" civilizations of Europe back in the 16th and 17th centuries. Compared to the Native Americans at that time, the Europeans were as technologically advanced as we might imagine an extraterrestrial civilization to be beyond us today. When the Americas were "discovered", the voyagers did nothing to conceal themselves from the locals. Nor did they just drop in to build a few structures and then never come back. Quite the opposite in many cases. Indigenous people were exterminated or enslaved during an all-out quest for riches and resources that only gained momentum as time passed. These early voyages of discovery weren't funded and undertaken on a whim, but rather to hopefully find a source of riches and power for the countries sponsoring them.
Why would an alien civilization ever bother coming to our Earth? I would imagine for some of the same reasons that Europeans first came to the Americas. For something of value to them, like natural resources...or maybe to establish an outpost on their frontier. I sincerely doubt that any advanced extraterrestrial civilization would invest the time, effort, and resources to travel billions of miles merely to rile up the locals with some flashing lights in the night sky. Surely they have better things to do.


I agree. The distances involved are mind-boggling indeed.

Earth is a good source of Protein, they seem to like the taste of humans which taste like Pork. Slow smoked over a wood fire....ummmm..uummmm...

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by Seahawk

I have seen UFO's for extended periods of time twice.

Key descriptor is UFO.

However, to completely disdain the idea that our current understanding of physics is penultimate of hubris.

Humans can't live at speeds beyond 25 miles per hour. 1800's. Trains, planes and automobiles a week later.

There is a wall in the sky. Just 70 years ago. Moon landing 22 years later.

Pluto is a Planet. Hubble. Not so fast. The Hubble completely changed our understanding of our solar system. One telescope in upper Earth orbit. Whoo!

Eggs are good for you. Eggs are bad for you. Eggs are good for you.

Hubris.

I saw and experienced what I did, with others. No aliens, no probing and no explanation: I was there, you were not. Make fun of my experience at your peril.

UFOs are indeed 100% real. Unidentified is the key word. No doubt humans have seen a lot of things that defy logical easy explanation. I get that. It does not make them extraterrestrial. I have met you in person and I know your are a logical intelligent man. What you saw is something no one will be able to explain away. Doubtful it was swamp gas.

There are lots of people that have seen something unidentified and unusual.

Bottom line, there is not a single scintilla of hard evidence. An alloy with isotopes not found on earth, a gizmo made with technology not of earth. It is like bigfoot, no hairs, no bones no evidence of any sort except people saying they saw it. Swearing they saw it. Terrified of it.

It is simply impossible to prove a negative. No one can prove something does NOT exist. The burden of proof is on the people saying it does exist. I can claim to have a pet bigfoot ghost. Only visible to me. You can't see it and you (or anyone) can't prove I don't have it. I have to prove I do. My proof will come right after proof of a real bigfoot.

[RKDinOKC]

Bigfoots were put on this planet to take over after we all nuke ourselves.

Don't know how they came up with that one. Maybe if you can't find one or evidence of them, that makes them somehow immune to radiation.

[Seahawk]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

I have to prove I do. My proof will come right after proof of a real bigfoot.

I know you do, Glen. I get it. No issues.

Bloodletting to heart surgery and replacement in a hundred years.

That is just the known, measurable, workable, testable, etc., realm.

We are, to cite my favorite movie line, "an ant in the afterbirth".

[sammyg2]