Waaay goofy. Then again if they bring show girls out they'll get slammed. Save the show for the fan parties.

I guarantee that Wilson and Reeves are on a watch list.

I don't think there'll be a sweep even if Vegas wins tomorrow.

Also, the goalies are now both washed in blood, they will play better. Which may translate to cleaner play in front of the crease...maybe.

Hmmm, I wonder what he means by that.

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I thought the exact same thing until I looked at this 5 minute video:
https://www.nhl.com/video/nhl-now-tom-wilsons-hit/t-282785066/c-60490303

The league allows up to .6 seconds after the puck leaves the stick. The hit (start at the 2:15 mark) was .68 seconds after the puck left the stick. :eek:
It was less than 9/100ths of a second late. Seemed like longer but watch the video.

The 0.6 second rule is a liberal number intended to allow late contact when players are facing, and prepared to engage ach other.

What Wilson did was way way way too late, anyone who knows hockey can watch that at full speed and immediately know it's late. It should have been a minor penalty. It's not debatable. Suspension? Probably not, but worthy of a review. Twenty years ago the only response would have been 'stop admiring your pass'.

The solution in the modern day NHL is for Ryan Reeves to take similar liberties with the Capital's more fragile players. Fighting accomplished very little, and will probably come with an instigator penalty. Far better to hurt TJ Oshie, Kuznetzov, Orlov, etc.

The missed call on Reeves prior to his goal was atrocious. Hard to believe the referee, who was clearly looking at the play, missed it. Second rate refereeing. And this comment is coming from a Wes McCauley fan.

The opening show? The fans apparently loved it, who are we to judge? In a non-hockey market you need to sell more than hockey. Good for Vegas for selling what people (appear to) want.

I completely agree with you

I too have to agree with 1990 on the Wilson hit & checking out your passing skills.
It is drilled into you pretty much from "day one" in your hockey playing life;
keep your head up & be aware, especially for the possibility of an opposition
'cement-head' (to wit: 'heavy player') having you in his sights.
I still feel Wilson had enough time to bail on the hit & it should have
been called an interference penalty at the very least.

Reaves gets called for his obvious cross check(?) - who knows & can
state unequivocally if it would have had a direct impact on the game's outcome.

The best answer I can come up with is a "definite maybe"

I look to both net-minders to recover their playoff mojo thus a low scoring
game although with two high-octane offences, there should be plenty of scoring chances.

Caps 2-1 & throw in the empty-netter.

Cheers
JB

Nice to have 1990 make a cameo appearance. I always respect your opinion although I don't always agree.

Legally, .6 seconds. Not sorta kinda. .6 seconds by the letter of the law. The sorta kinda days were when we didn't have the technology to go back and see it immediately. By the letter of the law the hit was late. I disagree that it was "way way too late". Again, look at the video posted. That said, I think that the penalty was appropriate. Anything more? No. It was to the shoulder and not the head and was just good hard hockey.

(edit) one more thing: "sorta kinda" is the problem we have with goalie interference. Unfortunately there is no way to fix that since it is a judgement call but we need to get the variables out of the game that causes one hit to be O.K. and another that is identical to be a penalty. Examples besides the Reaves missed call:
Poor Start and Missed Call Doom the Caps in Game Five | We Never Stop Talking Baltimore Sports
I forget which game it was but there a boarding that was totally missed by the stripes in the Tampa/Caps series? It was so bad I was expecting a game misconduct but nothing was called.

(I am not a Wes McCauley fan. He has 20/20 vision to see and call penalties with some players and other players dirt seems to be missed by him even when the guy with a seeing eye dog saw the penalty). IMO, he has personal bias.

As 1990 alluded to, I sure do miss the "good old days" when things were a lot tougher but I respect that the players don't want to risk being crippled each time they play. The good old days were only good for the fans. Fortunately the NHL hasn't turned the game into no contact powder puff hockey (yet). You still need to have situational awareness when you are by the boards or have the puck. It is funny to see rookies get a welcome call to the league (or some whining players) with some good hard legal hits.

Anyone expect a blowout tonight ? Or do you think the teams have settled down after game one and this will be a more defensive game ? I have to think both goal tenders will be sharper than game one .

I predicted tonight will be 1-0 or 2-1

Do a freeze frame on the hit. As Jonathan Marchessault is bouncing off Wilson's shoulder the puck is already on the next players stick. He has received the pass when JM gets hit.

The hit is late. Period. The vast majority of knowledgeable hockey people would call 0.5 seconds late. At least it was a body shot.

Late, like this (this hit is also boarding and from behind, unlike Monday's hit):

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And, the 0.6 second rule is for suspension and video review purposes only, on the ice the call is at the referees discretion. I called it a penalty,I did not mention a suspension. I could even support a five minute major for that hit.

Furthermore, don't go looking for 'late hit' in the rulebook. It is not codified. Nor is 'blind-side' hit. The appropriate rule is Interference:

The last player to touch the puck, other than the goalkeeper, shall be considered the player in possession. The player deemed in possession of the puck may be checked legally, provided the check is rendered immediately following his loss of possession.

The Referee, at his discretion, may assess a major penalty, based on the degree of violence, to a player guilty of interfering with an opponent

The concept of 'immediately following' eludes Mr. Wilson. And perhaps the referees.

In the end, that is not a hit the league should want in the game.

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In hindsight it is easy to see that Wilson was late on the hit. At game speed not so much. None the less I think that type of hit is less "finishing your check" and more "bush league". Remember Avery trying to screen Brodeur by waving his stick in Brodeurs face? That kind of bush league.

Wilsons check did not serve to stop a scoring chance or even stop the advancement of the puck or a play.

Oh as for tonight....as stated the goalies have been bloodied and they will clamp down. I think a low scoring game with an even chance for either to win.

Wow. Boys, we have a series. And can talk about hockey, not controversy.

I think I need a drink if I'm going to get to sleep tonight...:D

Both games have had high entertainment value. Both teams playing cup hockey. To me, the defining moment was the Caps holding the line when killing a 5 on 3.
The Caps have their FIRST Stanley Cup final game win. Lets see if they can keep it going at home.

If it splits in Washington oh baby.

A split in Washington is really what we all want because we want it to go seven . I turned the game off last night when it became 3-1 . Next game is Saturday correct ?

Yes. You missed Holtbys save on Tuch? I can't choose the best face after that save Tuchs or Ovis.

Yeah I missed it :( but I saw the replay this morning that was a game winner no doubt .

Ovi's face said it all. Whatever's Russian for "I can't f-in deal with this anymore." And that's WITH the save.

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The Holtby save was a thing of beauty but it has been done before in playoffs
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