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Spoon cleaning kit?

Now that I am amassing a small spoon collection I'm thinking of getting a "all in one" cleaning kit.

Back in the day it seemed like Hoppe's was the only game in town.

Now I see a bunch of other company's putting out product.

Is Hoppe's still the good stuff or has someone else taken the lead?

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I start with a good bore foam and let it sit for 20 minutes. Then I use a caliber-specific jag with a dry patch to push the foam out. Then a bore brush, and some Hoppe's #7. Then some Birchwood Casey bore cleaner on a patch on a jag. Then a Remington squeegee. Then some more Birchwood Casey bore cleaner. Then a dry patch. Then a patch with Birchwood Casey preservative.

Then I clean the body with some gun cleaner and a tooth brush. Let it dry, and oil with Rem Oil.
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this kit needs to cover handguns, rifles and shotguns? the full spectrum?

i cant stand the multi-piece cleaning rods. i love the 1-piece rod.

i dont buy kits anymore. i just kinda build up my own as the firearms arrive.
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I start with a good bore foam and let it sit for 20 minutes. Then I use a caliber-specific jag with a dry patch to push the foam out. Then a bore brush, and some Hoppe's #7. Then some Birchwood Casey bore cleaner on a patch on a jag. Then a Remington squeegee. Then some more Birchwood Casey bore cleaner. Then a dry patch. Then a patch with Birchwood Casey preservative.

Then I clean the body with some gun cleaner and a tooth brush. Let it dry, and oil with Rem Oil.
I do something very similar^^^

No need to buy an all-in-one kit. Just buy a cheap plastic Plano fishing tackle box with compartmentalized stacker shelves and label them by caliber with a Sharpie. Keep all the caliber specific jags, brushes, mops, etc in the compartments. Put your cleaners, lubes, and oils in the main compartment.

I only use one piece cleaning rods too. You really only need two sizes if you buy some adapters to fit all the attachments.




Or this is, if you need an excuse to buy more spoons.

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Dewey, Tipton, and Parker Hale...cleaning rods...

Just bought 6 rifle Cleaning rods, 2 Dewey Nylon Coated, 3 Park Hale and 14 brass PH cleaning jags for $56. The 6th rod was ehhh...at auction.

Best to piece a cleaning kit together...buy good quality components.

Look for the US military surplus cotton 30 cal cleaning patches, they also came in 22 cal. Just about the best that there is. Also US mil spec bore cleaner...and grease...

Those US mil cleaning patches used to be every where but they have dried up...

I like Break Free and or LPS for lubricants and cleaning. Also you can mix Kano Kroil oil and GM Top Engine Cleaner a friend told me that is what he uses.

For Black Powder... automotive Water Pump lubricant..water solvable oil. I use that to swab out the bore to clean out the fouling and to lubricate my patches. At home a bucket of boiling hot water with some detergent. Then dry dry dry and oil oil oil.

I also have a Chapman gun screw driver set.
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The spoon nuts may correct me if I'm wrong, but I've been told with the newer smokeless powders cleaning after each use isn't needed as much as the old days. One old guy told me, "More good guns have been ruined by over cleaning than shooting and left dirty".
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here in CA, we are handcuffed to non-toxic ammo.

that stuff is dirty to barrels. copper solvent is a must. my 257 weatherby magnum is scorching fast..it copper fouls so quickly.
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I start with a good bore foam and let it sit for 20 minutes. Then I use a caliber-specific jag with a dry patch to push the foam out. Then a bore brush, and some Hoppe's #7. Then some Birchwood Casey bore cleaner on a patch on a jag. Then a Remington squeegee. Then some more Birchwood Casey bore cleaner. Then a dry patch. Then a patch with Birchwood Casey preservative.

Then I clean the body with some gun cleaner and a tooth brush. Let it dry, and oil with Rem Oil.
Hmmm... I prefer my #7 to be from Jack Daniels. Not much of a bore cleaner, but nonetheless useful when cleaning bores with Hoppe's #9.

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Dewey, Tipton, and Parker Hale...cleaning rods...

Just bought 6 rifle Cleaning rods, 2 Dewey Nylon Coated, 3 Park Hale and 14 brass PH cleaning jags for $56. The 6th rod was ehhh...at auction.

Best to piece a cleaning kit together...buy good quality components.

Look for the US military surplus cotton 30 cal cleaning patches, they also came in 22 cal. Just about the best that there is. Also US mil spec bore cleaner...and grease...

Those US mil cleaning patches used to be every where but they have dried up...

I like Break Free and or LPS for lubricants and cleaning. Also you can mix Kano Kroil oil and GM Top Engine Cleaner a friend told me that is what he uses.

For Black Powder... automotive Water Pump lubricant..water solvable oil. I use that to swab out the bore to clean out the fouling and to lubricate my patches. At home a bucket of boiling hot water with some detergent. Then dry dry dry and oil oil oil.

I also have a Chapman gun screw driver set.
Nylon coated rods are no more than a poor man's bore lap. Stick to hardened, one piece steel that doesn't pick up grit.

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The spoon nuts may correct me if I'm wrong, but I've been told with the newer smokeless powders cleaning after each use isn't needed as much as the old days. One old guy told me, "More good guns have been ruined by over cleaning than shooting and left dirty".
Exactly. Especially if you use a nylon coated rod.

I simply run a half dozen patches wet with Hoppe's #9 down the bore, then one dry patch. No brushing. This gets them clean enough to put up until I shoot them again.

For black powder, I just use water. When clean, I run a few patches wet with Hoppe's #9 down the bore and call it good.
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Regardless of your choice of solvents/cleaners, I use these:

https://www.amwproducts.com/collections/gun-cleaning-kits



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Since you live up North of me in the area close to LA I would suggest going to one of the gun shows in OC or similar. There is a family that sells cleaning rods/patches/jags/brushes/ ETC and the old fellow running it is pretty up to speed on what works and doesn't. I buy my patches in huge bags for my 50 caliber and 45 caliber muzzle loaders since I wipe between shots. I bought my cleaning/loading rods from him also as they are the "Wonder Rods" that bend a bit but never break. He also sells tools such as gunsmith screwdrivers sets, Weaver scope mount set, AR-15 tools and such. Liquids are available in large cans and I buy those except for RemOil which I buy at Walmart.
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I've been using Ballistrol for a few years now...cleaning and protection.
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And this kit a few years ago...which I have yet to use. So many other old tools to use.
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https://www.amazon.com/Otis-Tactical-Cleaning-System-Shotgun/dp/B0000C52A5/ref=zg_bs_3225968011_36/144-3797007-9070456?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=6BDD904X359B8SPD3XJK
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this kit needs to cover handguns, rifles and shotguns? the full spectrum?

i cant stand the multi-piece cleaning rods. i love the 1-piece rod.

i dont buy kits anymore. i just kinda build up my own as the firearms arrive.
I have a 9mm kit for my pistol and a shotgun

I have a .357 and a 9mm carbine available for pickup the 14th. I presume my old 9mm kit will work with the ,357 and I can check to see if the rods in the shotgun kit will screw into 9mm brush then I can use that on the carbine.

I do have a buckmark on order... but I have a old crossman 22 air pistol... been so long I don't even remember if ever bought a cleaning kit for it.

So... first order of business is to dig into my closet and drag out everything I have in stock.

I may only need a tackle box to collect everything together in one place.

How about the bore rope things? Anyone use them?
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Nylon coated rods are no more than a poor man's bore lap. Stick to hardened, one piece steel that doesn't pick up grit.
Not that this newbie would ever question our resident spoon expert His Royal Higgensness...

Steel rods? I think mine are aluminum.
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I have a 9mm kit for my pistol and a shotgun

I have a .357 and a 9mm carbine available for pickup the 14th. I presume my old 9mm kit will work with the ,357 and I can check to see if the rods in the shotgun kit will screw into 9mm brush then I can use that on the carbine.

I do have a buckmark on order... but I have a old crossman 22 air pistol... been so long I don't even remember if ever bought a cleaning kit for it.

So... first order of business is to dig into my closet and drag out everything I have in stock.

I may only need a tackle box to collect everything together in one place.

How about the bore rope things? Anyone use them?
Buckmark. i'll save you some headache. OTIS makes a short .22 cal bore snake thing. it is way more rigid that the other brand. (actual BoreSnake i suppose). so much easier to push the the weight thru than to use gravity to pull the BoreSnake version down. buy the OTIS snake. i can show you the packaging later tonight if i have it and remember.
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Not that this newbie would ever question our resident spoon expert His Royal Higgensness...

Steel rods? I think mine are aluminum.
Aluminum isn't as bad as nylon coated, but it's not as good as steel. The whole idea behind lapping something is that the lapping material embeds in the softer of the two materials passing over one another, so it moves with the softer and works on the harder of the two. When we do it on purpose, we use copper, brass, aluminum, or other such materials as the lap, and whatever "grit" of lapping compound we think we need. When we do it inadvertently, like when cleaning a barrel, the same thing applies - the grit embeds in the softer material so it can rub against the harder material.

This is all really kind of picking nits when it comes to cleaning our sporting and plinking firearms. They lead a pretty easy life and really never get all that dirty. I'm sure you could use aluminum, or coated nylon, for the rest of your days on your pet rifle and never see any ill affect. I was really addressing Tabby anyway, what with the sheer volume of ammunition he burns through in a day. I'd hate to see him damage any one of his extensive collection of fine collector firearms through improper cleaning...
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How about the bore rope things? Anyone use them?
I use a bore rope or bore snake when I shoot in cowboy action silhouette matches. After the first two sets of targets, I pull the snake through a couple times. I don't use it as part of my cleaning regimen.

BTW...I came in 1st place in last months CRPA CA State Silhouette Match in the lever-action pistol cartridge category. Didn't do so well in the rifle cartridge match.
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I put spoons along with forks in the dishwasher. I clean guns/firearms/weapons/pistols/long guns/shotguns with a barrel brush followed by a cloth with solvent repeatedly until clean followed by a cloth with a light oil. It is not rocket surgery.
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No.

Use Ramrodz. Their offerings are all you will need...l use Hops, Frog, etc. and the Ramrodz bamboo works great.
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Or, just shoot Glocks and AK's.

When they get dirty, rinse them off in a creek and get back to shooting!

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