Glasurit 22 vs PPG DCC

3literpwr · 12-24-2018, 06:55 AM

As I get closer to the paint stage of my project, my mind has went back and fourth on color, paint and if i'd do it myself or not. Despite this i'm pretty close to the color I want to shoot and i'm thinking I'd prefer a single stage system as I generally prefer the look. There seems to be two main options out there and I wanted a bit of advice on the 22 line vs DCC. Assuming the spray similar, is one considered higher quality?

Thanks!

962porsche · 12-26-2018, 08:56 AM

a few years ago we demoed PPG in my shop because Ferrari at that time changed from glasurit to ppg for there coatings. the reason we were thinking of adding PPG in our shop was to get better color matching with the ferrari's painted in ppg. you would think if the manufacture is using it them ppg would offer the right formulas to also match . WRONG! the color matches sucked. ppg also told us it would be a lower cost to use ppg over the glasurit systems we have in the shop . this was wrong. the 22 line is a very high solid so we were able to spray one less coat of color on the car this used less materials and also got us in and out of the booth faster with glasurit. after 5 years ferrari went back to BASF glasurit because it's a better system. after our month demo was over we never added ppg into our shop.
IMO Glasurit is the best paint line on the market. just about every top auto maker ( porsche , lambo , ferrari , bentley, bmw ,benz and so on.) uses it for a reason.

dennisO · 12-29-2018, 02:37 PM

If you go with Glasurit 22, then what epoxy primer do you use? I thought it was bad to mix products from different paint vendors.

962porsche · 04:38 AM

that's for dam sure you should not mix product lines of paint manufactures.
you can use glasurit 801-703 or 801-72 epoxy primer. you can use the 285-60 filler primer over it and also you can do your body filler work over the 801 epoxy's.
you can use the RM product line with products from the glasurit product line they are compatible with each other.
so if you wanted to use the RM epoxy primer under glasurit it's just fine to do.

3literpwr · 01-05-2019, 01:43 PM

Thanks for the info. Looked into pricing for both the PPG DCC line and 22 line. Both are pricey when you don't deal with paint often, but my local dealers said around $900 a gal for the 22 line and $800 for the DCC. Looking at a color change as the car is being blasted with it going Cashmere or possible 3939 Olive, vintage fj40 Cadet blue or something else random.

Will 1967 · 01-06-2019, 12:51 PM

962porsche: Just checking if its typo; can you use 801-703 ep with 22-line? (I though you can)

Many thanks!!

962porsche · 01-07-2019, 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Will 1967

962porsche: Just checking if its typo; can you use 801-703 ep with 22-line? (I though you can)

Many thanks!!

yes typo sorry

962porsche · 01-07-2019, 04:52 AM

shopping for paint on price is the wrong way to do it..
1st thing you may find is even though one maybe lower cost it may take an extra coat to get the same mil build for coverage. meaning glasurit may take 2 coats to cover and with another brand it may take 3 coats for the same coverage aka mil build. so in the long run it's not a lower cost. we found this to be the case when we demoed PPG in my shop.
also with many other things to look at is not just what the Gal of paint will cost but what it costs for a sprayable gal of paint that would be the cost of it mixed with hardener and reducer.
with some paint systems your having to buy different hardeners and reducers for your primers sealers and top coats. this adds to the over all cost to refinish a car.
one more thing to look at is some paint manufactures will charge more for there reds , yellows , oranges. and less for colors like white. with glasurit all there colors are the same price so you will spend the same amount for reds as you would for whites.

3literpwr · 01-07-2019, 07:12 AM

I'm going with the 22 line for sure. Any thoughts on total paint qty for a complete respray inside and out? Also, the car will have a cage.

962porsche · 01-07-2019, 08:35 AM

factors ?
what color ?
you you looking to color sand and buff after?
cage but are you doing any interior or will it be totally metal showing? a cage alone will burn up more material as most of the spray guns pattern will just blow color out into the air and not get sprayed onto the cage as your spraying.
are you thinking of using a tinted sealer?
is the engine bay going to be body color or another color ( like say a low gloss black) ?