Cool Collar

[jazzbass]

Originally posted by Por_sha911
Now if I can just get more cowbell!

Why? Do you have a fever or something?

[juanbenae]

i bought one, my 1st pelican purchase some 3 1/2 years ago (did not get a sticker either) and leave it in place. i spent the $30 on it and am not embarassed in the least (ever noticed my spelling), i really dont care what others think and if it amuses them, great. does it work? sure, i guess, but for 30 i leave it in, and wont be painting it black anytime soon. should we ever cross paths and you want a good laugh i will pop my rear hatch for you, just ask.

thing is, there are other snake oil products in our little p-car world that other will swear by. i am just glad the one i signed on with was th CC, hell a 930 steering wheel is a $400 bottle of snake oil. the beauty of a tub of snake oil is in the eyes of the beholder.

[rds356]

I have the cool collar on a 3.2 turbo conversion motor. Did not drop the temp one degree!!

[alan911]

Hell...just a passing thought....

If your going to be experimenting with it at Thunderhill, be sure to remove the left handed oojan sprocket and replace it with two super mangelwrorzles with right handed gigglepin drivers. You will lose a further 122 gm of boost and improve the aspiration by at least 16%.

Accordidng to my calculations, (MIT grad with only 1 degree) this should decrease the oil temp by 3 degrees and increase the power to 27 cubic roubles per fathom. Too much reduction in temp readings could alter the ultra-physoplasty of the basic inner-molecular disco-mirro-ball. So be careful with that Cool-Collar.

[i] Too much reduction in temp readings could alter the ultra-physoplasty of the basic inner-molecular disco-mirro-ball. So be careful with that Cool-Collar. [/B]

Does that come with a baked potato or french fries?

[sammyg2]

If Wayne really does decide to sail his boat off the edge of the world I got dibs on his 308. I figure that last few posts should be enough to help him make up his mind

[pbs911]

The cool collar dropped the temps on my 3.0 a couple degrees. But, I still had to go with a front mounted oil cooler with the 3.6 conversion. It's not going to solve an overheating problem. Based upon my experience it passes the cost / benefit test.

[rrpjr]

Installed cool collar recently on my 84 Carrera. Strictly unscientific, observational evidence points to reduction in oil temp of 5-10 degrees.

[Mike Feinstein]

No way. I tried one on my Carrera, street, track and auto-x. Measured the temp at the exact same location (exposed end of the oil filter) with a pyrometer many times at the track with and without. If there was a difference, it was absolutely NOT detectable/measurable. Simply put...it's not worth the cost of the box it came in. Absolutely NO difference. Sold it for $5. The guy who bought it got ripped off. Would have been wiser to buy himself a cold beer instead.

[Emission]

OK, I finally installed my COOL COLLAR (after it sat on my bench for nearly a year).

It wouldn't fit, so I had to cut it in half. No big deal and it shouldn't affect any results:

Viewed oil temps with and without. Couldn't tell a difference.

Took measurements with an IR Pyrometer. Couldn't tell a difference.

Hmmm....

It does get really hot, so it must be dissipating some heat... somewhere. So, I have to say it does reduce the temp of the oil filter canister... and this must reduce the temp of the oil inside the filter... it must, right? Maybe .1 F degree?

Well, I don't know about my oil, but I feel cooler with it.

[juanbenae]

the snake oil's beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.

[Emission]

Originally posted by k911sc
the snake oil's beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.

I bought this thing on a dare... Wayne offered me a generous money-back-guarantee that if it didn't work, I could return it. So, I bought it (I would never have it bought it without that clause).

Well, you can't really tell if it works or not, so I am stuck with it.

I swear, my oil temp HAS gone down. Just no telling how little...

[deoxford]

I have read the remarks back and forth on this and I have a few thoughts


1. How accurate are the Temp gauge's in these cars? Do they see a few degrees of change?


2. I think that it should work.....If it was built in to the Filter.
What I am saying is that the cool collar is supposed to work by changing the surface area of the cooling surface.

But I think it not as efficient because it is two layers of metal wrapped around the filter. One of the filter housing and one of the collar.

So I think if filters were made with the cooling fins it would cool the oil temp much better.... and cheaper.

Perhaps make a filter that the inside filter part can be changed out and the outside skin or case with the fins would use over and over.

But I am sure someone else has thought of this and taken the time to do the math, and figure if and how well it would work.

[Emission]

Originally posted by deoxford
"...But I think it not as efficient because it is two layers of metal wrapped around the filter. One of the filter housing and one of the collar."

I was thinking the same thing.

Wrapping a layer of aluminum around steel has to have some sort of insulating effect (counterproductive)... but then I noticed the heat is readily transferred to the aluminum...

If the COOL COLLAR is getting hot, the heat must be coming off the oil - therefore it HAS to be working a little.

[tiorio]

I can't belive I'm posting. I can't belive I made it to page 3.

But my post goes like this:

Who the hell cares about some device that nobody has tested and that even the biggest optimists say only gives you -10 degrees? If your car is that hot, fix the issues!

Who the hell cares how many degrees anyone has? Only the people with lots of degrees IM(not so)HO. Let's compare bank accounts or something. BTW, I loose both ways...

How can you all be so passionate about a little piece of metal that nobody has tested under remotely scientific conditions?

Thank goodness for the cool collar. The engineers can get all their theorizing and pruning and degree flaunting out of the way whilst the simpler man can pontificate about 10 degree cooler temps with ZERO scientific grounding.

Oh hell yes, I'm just grumpy and cynical. Trust me, women dig that quality. It's right after 'he makes me laugh'...

[tiorio]

Wow, that was awesome. I think I managed to insult everyone on the board in a single post. Or at least everyone reading this thread...

Sarcasm comes across soooooo bad via text...

[deoxford]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by tiorio
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How can you all be so passionate about a little piece of metal that nobody has tested under remotely scientific conditions?

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That is the point I am trying to make that, you have to look at the engineering of the product, and test it against, real accurate numbers.

[Steve W]

Works or not, the proximity of the heat emminating from the Cool Collar to the air intake is counterproductive to producing power.

[Emission]

Originally posted by Steve W
Works or not, the proximity of the heat emminating from the Cool Collar to the air intake is counterproductive to producing power.

That is an brilliant point.

You really want to remove (transfer) the heat somewhere else. To get the most power, you should wrap the oil filter with insulation (and anything else that "produces" heat near the intake)!

[Sunroof]

I was an early purchaser of the Collar and have on many occasion hopped on the bandwagon singing the praises of the "needles worth of cooling" that the collar provides. Hey, its great for helping to get the oil filter off too! No struggle on that one.

My 2.4/CIS engine never gets over 220, so everything helps, even my added "heet sheets". I like gizmo's although I never owned a Popitto Pocket Fisherman. The collar goes beyond gizmo although I oftened wondered how great a cookie cutter it would be!!!

Regards

Another Fellow Sailor _/)

Bob