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Yeah the RSR+ was cool, it sure did allow for a slammed ride hieght. Yes all the RSR+ body parts are available. I have the 4 fenders, RSR+ rear bumper, 2 running boards and 2 front bumpers (traditional but wider RSR+ and the 935ish). I'd let them go for a very fair price.:) As for the wing I'll need to do a little testing. The current element (wing) is actually John's design. He had the aeronautical engineers in his office design it. It is a low aspect wing theoretically better at lower speeds (under 120mph). I'll use it at lower speed tracks and on the street. I don't need a wing on the street, still it might look funny without a wing. For the high speed tracks I'll try my old 6 foot long straight wing that Jae at Mirage made for me. Referred to as a high aspect ratio wing it is common on todays race cars. It would be mounted similar to how VZ935 has it on his car with the same tailbase. So anyone interested in the deal of the decade on the complete RSR+ body kit? PM me for details. :) http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1149187188.jpg |
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Amen when do you know a project is done?:)
Actually 6 track days. Did a TCRA race, 2 Friday test days, the OTR event and half the PCA TT. Like that makes a diff.;) Yeah I'm shooting for a July shake down at the PCA DE at Qualcomm stadium in San Diego. Beach DE in the summer not a bad thing. Projects like yours make guys like me feel middle of the road.;) That's wild, looks like the right way to do a 918. Let that T8 pass be an your incentive that next time (if I'm lucky) our speeds should be matched.:D |
John and I did a double shift on the car Saturday, loaded up a little after dinner.
I'll finish the reassemble at home, then it's over to Mirage for a corner balance. Time for a cold one(s), car looks 7/8th scale next to me.;) http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1150068913.jpg Dr. John Simone, thumbs up on your 6 week transformation. :D http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1150068976.jpg Rear view. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1150069026.jpg O'dark thirty and it's into the trailer. Ramp extensions worked well. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1150069107.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1150069128.jpg Next event a fun beach city DE at San Diego's Qualcomm stadium mid July. I had a great experience with John Simone and his 993 EVO transformation. If you have a question regarding John Simone's EVO transformations you can reach him at j_simone@msn.com Be sure to tell him you saw his latest transformation on Pelican. |
Just a couple of photos first time out at a local parking lot DE.
New body worked great. Due to the extra low ride height we have raised and widened the front fenders. John Simone did a masterful job. Next John plans to make molds of the new front fenders. After we get a set of new fenders out of the mold it will be ready for paint. Here's a couple DE shots. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1153157085.jpg |
Looks really good Mike... Whats the hole in the rear decklid for? I know the real FIA GT2's use a hole similiar for the rain light. :D
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Man..it must feel good to get her back on the road.
Car looks very mean.... How is the understeer now? ... heh,heh One SMALL detail not even worth mentioning...I think it would look even better with quarter windows that dont look so closed. Maybe its just the pic or my eyes.... Again, car is awsome. |
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Not planning any heavy rain racing. ;) The hinged flap is for access to the cotter pin that secures the tail base. Interesting idea converting it to a hinged 3rd brake light. |
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Funny you ask, no understeer here.:o http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1153162957.jpg Actually the aero did not really kick in too much as it was just a 2nd and 3rd gear track. In addition to driver error my off was the result of a couple of issues. I was on a set of used slicks that were very slow to heat up. I had my brake bias set up perfectly, for when the tires are hot. So after 10 minutes of track time the brakes are 100% the front tires warm but the rear did not heat up enough till the last 5 minutes of the session. The spin happened about 8 minutes into the session, great brakes but no rear tire grip. I put my new Kumho 710s on, problem solved. I am not buying anymore used slicks. Yes the proportions of the rear quarter windows will look more correct when I paint the inside portion of the white window frame black. |
More photos from Greg Phillips the club photographer.
I had some cheap clear shelf paper on the nose to control the rock chips in the gel coat. Thanks for your interest.:) http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1153163651.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1153163626.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1153163610.jpg |
mike - great looking car. I noticed the windows too but agree it will look much better when the mounting surface is painted black.
question - what is your ground clearance at the front spoiler/dam area? Did you scrape at all? |
just freaking awesome! The cool part was the FG parts as you go...lucky man.
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This is a new AIR part that we did modify for added ground clearance on the sides below the cooler exits. Before it did slope down under the cooler exits, the Getty EVO nose does not? The nose scraped once or twice during for the first session when the temp. track had a 90 degree approach to a gutter/swale crossing. I was slowing for that and taking it at an angle, some of the higher cars were hitting or getting airborne on that. They angled the swale xing to basically my line, problem solved. The early session head on track design approach was a bit optimistic. It's low but streetable, just need to be careful. Blue car belongs to a corner worker, DB meter and hot lap tx on tri pods. Here's a photo of the new black asphalt swale transition. Is the 914 project progressing nicely? http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1153170949.jpg |
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I plan to run a rubberized dam of some sort attached to the splitter about 1.5" off the ground to cut off the wind from going under the car and won't mind if that drags a little. Sheet aluminum doesn't bend and go back ;) Quote:
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Must not go off! I am very interested in the painless fuse box with GM style fuses. I do want to keep the stock appearing dash set up for now. Good luck with your project thanks for the update. Hope to see you at another OTR event soon.:) |
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What size wheels and tires are you running here? |
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The silver centered rims are 17x10.5 and 13 with Kumho 275/40 and 335/35 DOT-R tires. That picture has the black rims in front and silver rims in the rear. I normally would not mix those rims/tires but my used 18 inch rear slicks turned out to be worthless. |
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They give names to each fuse, but that is easily overlooked and you can wire it any way you want to. http://www.painlesswiring.com/webcatalog.php The issue with the 914 (and so I suspect the 911 tho' I can't say for certain) is that the fuses tend to be inline between the powered switch (always 12v+) and the item the switch is activating. So, headlights for example = the switch has 12V supplied 100% of the time. You turn on the headlights, and the switch supplies 12v to the headlight wire, which goes to thru the fuse box. On the GM/Painless stuff, the 12V+ is fused, NOT the wire to the item. So, I am making a custom harness to make my life easier since the car is so much different than the stock 914 was (no more relay board, dash gauges are totally different, no more seat belt buzzer garbage, radio, interior light, on and on). To convert wouldn't be too hard tho'. It would be a matter of extending some 12V feeds thru the new box and splicing/soldering the feed wires to the item at the old fuse box location. Long winded, but hopefully clear. I spent a few nights at home with graph paper, the stock wiring diagram, and the fuse box on my lap laying out a new, simple harness for all my goodies. The thing I like most is a new relay is dirt cheap and at any FLAPS, unlike the stock relays. I have a box of them from parted cars just for that reason :p Same thing with the fuse - easy to find and if I blow one, worst case I have a spare in the tow vehicle's fuse block. |
I just ran into this thread and I see you are thinking of using the Painless Wiring fusebox on your car. I did this last year on my track car using the street/race harness and their 8 switch box on my '74 911. PO had made a mess of the harness, I figured I was better off starting from scratch. They have good manuals, but it took some thinking and pre planing.
Before you start, you really have to study the OEM wiring colors and figure out how each circuit works. Ended up reusing some of the round, black relays for fuel pump and electromotive system. I also created a master book of all circuits and wire colors and were they connected. That is necessary in order to go back and troubleshoot in the future. System has been in place for over a year and I had no electrical problems. Kits are meant for front engine cars, so some wires might be a tad short. I ended up splicing part of the 14 pin connector and wiring right by the starter. Soldered and heat shrank all wires. I wanted to maintain the plug and play capabilty when dropping the engine. My car is street legal and saved 14# (7 Painless vs 21# for OEM harness). I have aded a couple of 12v PC fans for defrosters and a couple of 12v heaters controlled by spare circuits in panel, it can be chilly in Pocono in the Spring! Including some pictures... Good Luck! Lou http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1153183887.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1153183915.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1153183966.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1153184032.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1153184175.jpg |
Thanks guys for the wiring tips, it's on the list.
Very nice job Len! Last couple photos, got lucky had like 4 photographers down at Qualcomm stadium Sunday. From Henry's Photos, more DE cars here. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1153187683.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1153187693.jpg Last one, here is John Simone, he is the guy that builds and installs all of these cool EVO parts. He was not really prepared but I talked him into taking it out for a couple laps. Big grin. :D http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1153188019.jpg |
WOW! I saw all of "Ted's" for sale ads and wondered if there was some tragic end to the RSR...so I had to run a search and found this! Damn nice work by John Simone. You're nuts Mike...but the result of your insanity is .... enviable! Can't wait to see the car painted.
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Well you got me figured out.:) It's the end for the RSR+, but not tragic thankfully. Enviable thanks, John Simone is very talanted with the composites. FYI here is John's contact info. j_simone@msn.com This week the car is being obsessed on over at the local tin shop. So I spent Sunday taking pictures of spare parts in the garage.:) Imho if you want to save a few thousand on an EVO2 rebody just skip the RSR+ step.;) I'll post some updates in a couple days. Best, Mike |
Couple of update photos...
Still in the fabrication phase, paint will follow. The big wing is on. The other smaller wing will be used on the street. Which wing will work best on the track? From what I have been told theoretically the big wing has a narrow chord so it is more of a high aspect or high speed wing. We'll see in testing. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1155946454.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1155946653.jpg Maybe you can see the rear seat area cover. It has been powder coated with a wrinkle black finish...was hoping on the freeway from two lanes away it might look like black carpet. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1155946808.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1155946830.jpg I have the passenger seat installed finally. The cover will be replaced, but it too has received the same black wrinkle finish. The passenger's otherwise lonely session at Big Willow will be more interesting thanks to Chatterbox helmet to helmet comm system. ;) http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1155947112.jpg |
The passenger comforts continue with right and left dead pedals, how nice!
The driver's combo cool shirt/helmet cooler rests between your feet. Maybe it will (maybe not) deflect some of the heat from the -20 oil linehttp://www.pelicanparts.com/support/...s/fork_off.gif under your chair. You'll rest like a baby with an extra 2 inches of foam pad under your passenger seat cover.;) Top left are the controls for the driver's cool shirt ice water flow and helmet air flow. Work in progress, more race/street prep left. Cool shirts let long timers (older guys) race longer. ;) http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1155947888.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1155947762.jpg Hop in! http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1155948528.jpg The license plate, yeah excess tire, the wife asks if it's about my waistline!:rolleyes: So I grabbed a light beer. ;) http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1155947785.jpg |
The front air screens.
Not exactly what I had requested from the local fabricator. When silver they pop out, paint them black and they will blend in. I'm concerned that they will create too much drag. I had requested the more common SS weave screens. Reminds me of my summers working at Disneyland, Space Mountain'ish.:) Fastener locations questionable. Jury is still out on these. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1155949054.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1155949073.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1155949127.jpg Close up, new home of the Uber African bee?. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1155949146.jpg Here is the Stainless steel weave type screen I had requested. Would you sweat the aluminum screens? More to follow later.:D http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1155949301.jpg |
I like the beehive product, but the installation seems lousy - sorry to say (fasteners off - center, lack of symmetry, etc). I do think they may restrict airflow in a negative way. I haven't completed my wind tunnel, so I can't offer it up for testing :D :D
It kind of reminds me of the clowns who installed my clear paint guard product. More importantly, YOU WORKED AT DISNEYLAND???....WOW!! :D :D Look forward to catching up over a beer or three. Doug |
Neato!!! Whats w/ the pvc nipples in the cool suit box? Do they go to they helmet or are the cool shirt hoses that big:D If DW has 3 beers, you have 3 beers, I have 3 beers...well you get the picturehttp://www.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/wat6.gif
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Yeah just helmet air.
They claim it lowers the the temperature of the intake air 20 degrees. Uh huh like that Saturday a few weeks back... I drink 3 beers before I drink 3 beers, and then I drink 3 more. http://www.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/pint1.gif Just talked to Jae, your new 5 car rig is gonna be sweet!http://www.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/pray.gif Can we see a photo? |
Those "beehive" screens are too restrictive. I'll bet you get less than 1/2 the airflow of open. Look at the huge frame that lets no air through. Doesn't John Simone have some mesh protectors?
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Good to hear from you! Yeah John will need something very soon too. Agree too restrictive. I asked that question on the Pelican AX board and got a pretty good answer. I may for the time being remove the brake screen, it just dumps air behind the strut. I may for a quick fix keep the the oil cooler screen frames but replace the centers with the SS weave. I was surprised the fabricator substituted this material without consulting me. Waste of both his and my time.:confused: |
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Let's take our 3.6s to Big Willow! |
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Arrive and drive, that's bad it's nationwide.
Good looking rig! Yes please do though my name in the hat, that looks like an excellent adventure.:) |
Any updates?
Spoke to a friend of yours at the AZ PCA race this year. He drove the brown '77 Turbo Carrera. He didn't know you at Ted, instead a different (real name). Mad Mike |
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Bill is very fast, he was competitive in Europe during the 70s in the F1 farm league.:D He still has it. Yeah the name Ted is Google proof.;) My real name is Mike, hope to see you at the track soon. Since you asked it reminded me to take the camera out to the garage today. Actually this weekend I was over at John Simone's garage in north San Diego. A couple of us were there... Left to right. Bob's red and white PCA EVO 2, John's sweet 81 SC and John Payne's EVO 2 POC racer. Both Evo's came in for a new nose jobs. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1157946104.jpg John's rig surrounded by 5 Porsches, under the tarp an EVO 2 soon to rx a 993 500hp twin turbo. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1157946190.jpg Jose came by to wrench some in his yellow rocket. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1157946335.jpg Jose wrenching on an old long hood. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1157946387.jpg And here is Ron building a car similar to mine but with a G-50 6 speed and a VR 3.6. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1157946595.jpg |
Fellow Pelican with the # 83 big rig above Lowyder993 made me some very cool trailer ramps.
My car is low and his custom made extended ramps work perfectly, thanks Jim!! http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1157947419.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1157947434.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1157947445.jpg Back to the car... Got the cool shirt and helmet blower installed. Top left you can see the controls for the helmet blower and the cool shirt. The helmet cooler reduces the temperature of the air by 20 degrees. Not a lot except when you consider the the air inside the car might be 120 degrees. The air intake is outside the cockpit so even if it were 100 degrees outside then the temperature of the air being forced into the helmet would be only 80 degrees. From 120 to 80 in meaningful to me.:) Here you can see the air intake and blower on the far right. The cooler with the larger air hoses and smaller blue water hoses. The water hoses circulate ice water around my torso through 50 feet of surgical tubing. Most enjoyable while delayed in pre grid while suited up in a 3 layer nomex suit, refreshing! Passenger seat still virgin, who will the be the first??? http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1157948191.jpg |
Well, Mike, if I make it down soon I will take a ride!!!! :)
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We redid the intake screens with SS screen.
The frames are made from 1/4 inch cold rolled steel with center mounting flanges. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1157948640.jpg Here you can see the new front fender well deflectors. These should stop all the clag/rubber snakes from vulcanizing or pulling at the headlight wiring. Also installed brake ducts below the new fender wells. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1157948773.jpg We decided to repeat the screen look in the back. Leaving some FG for the license plate and a single vertical stiffener as well. Hmm were else could we do this to reduce drag? Perhaps on the rear bumper just behind the rear tires? This will do for now.:) http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1157949278.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1157949293.jpg Here is Jim Duncan being a big help designing the oil cooler plenum fences. CF fences help direct/ram all the air into the oil cooler. The oil coolers are sealed up perfectly now. Kinda tough with expensive black CF, working in the shadows while making templates and making marks with a black pen. I just used a pneumatic drum sander and followed his lines, thanks Jim, great job. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1157949041.jpg Did some other things on the list. Calibrated the 6 foot straight wing with increments from 2 to 10 degrees. Installed screen to deck lid vents. Chatter box helmet to helmet communicator installed. Hot lap installed. More roll bar padding installed. Front strut divider seal between the N20 and shock oil chamber replaced. This means front struts completely stripped and reinstalled. One of the short Air Jack lines needed to be replaced. Optima Battery and brain reinstalled. Passenger 5 point belts installed. This week John Simone is pulling molds off my prototype plus 4 inch EVO 2 front fenders. I'll post some photos later in the week. Next event Spring Mountain with the San Diego region PCA 9/30 and 10 /1. Question is since prostitution is legal in Pahrump would it still be considered cheating>:confused: SmileWavy |
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Jet into SAN and we'll spend a day with OTR at Big Willow. For sure you'll be able to ride with Jack Olsen. Maybe after a check ride with Jack they would accept my PCA TT/DE/AX driving instructor rating and let me take you along for session or two or more. I think it's a weekday in mid November? At any rate someday we should do this at Big Willow. We'll have fun. Best, Mike |
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