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[QUOTE]Originally posted by grudk
[B]With 'early' car values pretty high now, I would think that an increased number of these cars have been/will be restored to stock. And so it seems that the 'mid' year cars are a logical choice for modifying on a budget

Budget? What "budget" would that be? Not to challenge your comment but looking at these cars and the staggering costs of upgrades like motors, suspension, track gear and more it seems more a weight/style preference than a budget choice. It is true however that you can find a middie (project or starter car) at basic affordable prices rather than starting on those upgrades on a newer car (at $30K or more

Personally I could own a much newer Porsche (and have) considering the 10's of thousands I've put into my little '75 over the years. What I have now is a tight, fresh motor and total car set-up that I know every little grut and squeak on. What would I have for $35-40K? A newer car, sure, higher insurance rates, absolutely, and a car that needs even more extensive upgrades, repairs and up-keep to match the performance and road-worthyness of my 32 year old sweetheart. "Budget?" I think I klnow what you mean though. It's all relative to what you start with I guess...

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P.S. Dan in Pasedena. I believe that Early car is Stone Gray.
Thanks for the info. I really like that color and wondered if it was the Desert Beige?
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I certainly agree with a stock '74 Carrera being a thing of beauty. Porsche cars, in well preserved stock condition, any model, any year, are beautiful to serious Porsche addicts like us and to casual passers-by.
Austin, when are you in Casa Grande? Do you bring the P-car out? If so you're welcome to come drive with us sometime. PM if you're interested.
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I know; it still needs to be lowered! Maybe this winter.

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Porsche cars, in well preserved stock condition, any model, any year, are beautiful to serious Porsche addicts like us and to casual passers-by.
Hi Donny,
Couldn't agree with you more. I think EVENTUALLY Mid Year cars
- especially, but not exclusively - the stock, numbers-matching restored ones WILL be worth increasing amounts of money. But it's gonna take a long time and wouldn't be a good reason to buy a MidYear.

There was a time when you could buy garden variety 356's for relatively low prices. At the same time an early Carrera would have been available but at considerably more money...more than an average enthusiast could have hoped to afford. The average guy bought the 356, restored it, played with it. And if he had done it "right" and held it long enough he realized a LOT of value growth.

Now I'm not claiming there's anything like a direct correlation betwen Middies and 356's value wise. Maybe they'll never be seen as valuable as Earlies or even SC's. I just think if you bought a good one or restored one to a high condition and kept it l o n g term, you'll eventually realize a profit. I am doing that but to enjoy for myself. I may or may not realize a break even much less a windfall on the investment and I don't care. It's not why I bought mine.
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Did someone mention yellow cars? My 77 c3.
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I certainly agree with a stock '74 Carrera being a thing of beauty. Porsche cars, in well preserved stock condition, any model, any year, are beautiful to serious Porsche addicts like us and to casual passers-by.
Austin, when are you in Casa Grande? Do you bring the P-car out? If so you're welcome to come drive with us sometime. PM if you're interested.
Donny, Wish I could bring it there. Wife has family in Snow Flake. I do plan on a Route 66 run one day though.

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You said it all Dan!
My name is Donny and I'm a Porsche addict. It's been about fifteen minutes since my last urge to spend more money on My Precious...
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You said it all Dan!
My name is Donny and I'm a Porsche addict. It's been about fifteen minutes since my last urge to spend more money on My Precious...
Spent part of the day stripping parts off the 911 to sell and buy more parts with. Please Ferdinand help me!!
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My name is Donny and I'm a Porsche addict. It's been about fifteen minutes since my last urge to spend more money on My Precious...
Who is it here on the board that has a signature line something like,"Owning Porsches makes heroin addiction seem like a mild craving for something salty"!

I'm certain I screwed that quotation up, but you get the jest of it.

If Jay Leno is the self confessed President of the "Too Much Money and Not Enough Brains Club", I am at least a card-carrying member of the "Loves Cars, But Not Too Much Sense Club".

...but then again judging from all these pictures, YOU'RE all members too!
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by 75Carrera

Budget? What "budget" would that be? Not to challenge your comment but looking at these cars and the staggering costs of upgrades like motors, suspension, track gear and more it seems more a weight/style preference than a budget choice. It is true however that you can find a middie (project or starter car) at basic affordable prices rather than starting on those upgrades on a newer car [QUOTE][i]

What I meant was that it's marginally cheaper to purchase a mid-year as a base for modification, as opposed to some of the early cars -- condition being equal. A nice '72 T is more now costly than a similar 'base' 911 from the mid-years.

I agree, that 'budget' is perhaps an oxymoron in the context of modifying Porsches.

In regard to future values, I may be modifying my Carrera, but I'm keeping the original parts -- 'just in case.' And I do love my 'not so early' car... much more than my old 3.2s or RS America. Way more fun to toss about (quicker on the track, too).
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It's talbot yellow. Looks a little bright in that picture due to the sun.
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CARRERIC, very nice '75 with classic original looks. What production number is yours? My '75 is #215
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CARRERIC, yes, very nice 75. I am #81 and mine is an original South Florida car. I bought it in Miami. Too bad I didnt see you around.
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75Carrera and Cfries, thanks.

Mine is #266. Originally the car was from Santa Monica. Very original car when I got it, even had original window sticker.

Had the engine completely redone starting with the case sent to Competition Engineering. Than SC cam grind from webcam, RS pistons and cylinders, RS distributor, fly cut heads, SSI's, everything else new$$$$ and kept going - etc etc. Car is very very fast!!!!

Cfries, is your car yellow???
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Hi CARRERIC, no, its the white with red Carrera lettering (pictured in this post with Homestead Miami Speedway in the background. I have a 2.8L but no details on whats inside. I can say it has a 38mm intake with 46 Webers with solid chain tensioners and upgraded cams. Just got back from VIR at a DE event and it does very well. I am the fourth owner and I know the last two. the first owner was a Minnisota Vikings hall of famer Chuck Foreman who also played at UM. The second owner knew him (was his sport agent). I am now trying to document the owner history of the car. I have about 140,000 miles on the car, but not the motor.
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Beautiful car RichMink76!

You did a fantastic job. Love the color.

What color is that?


P.S. Dan in Pasedena. I believe that Early car is Stone Gray.
Thanks, it took me about three years. The color is Bali Blau.

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Here are a couple of shots of my 2.7 '77. I've owned it since 2003, and its fairly stock, with most of the notorious mid-year issues having been long ago resolved on it.
I think that the mid-years are a great bargain, compared to equally priced SCs and Carreras. Unfortunately the engine gave these cars a bad reputation. But as it appears most of us posting here have figured out, either fix those issues, or do an engine swap, and hot rod it.
Oh, and my car just turned 275,000 miles!


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