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[speednme1]

Originally Posted by Antomero

Stock setup… of course. Euro ride height has been beat up tremendously. Factory recommended measurements should be done to achieve the best handling Porsche. IMO

You do realize USA factory specs are to appease the government and not the car. Stock set-up are for purist who wipe down their car with a diaper..lol

[pkabush]

Originally Posted by Antomero

Stock setup… of course. Euro ride height has been beat up tremendously. Factory recommended measurements should be done to achieve the best handling Porsche. IMO

The factory recommended ride height is the Euro ride height. That’s how they came from the factory.
Like Speedme1 stated, the only reason they came to the states with a ride height suited for a 4x4 truck was to raise the bumpers to meet U.S. regulations.
Handling, aerodynamics and looks are all improved when our cars are lowered from the U.S. height.

[Bill Verburg]

Originally Posted by speednme1

You do realize USA factory specs are to appease the government and not the car. Stock set-up are for purist who wipe down their car with a diaper..lol

and the only years that 911 had raised factory front ride height was US 1975 thru 1983 where front ride height was 99+/-5, all other years for US and RoW front height was 108+/-5

additionally factory front height for special purpose cars was 143+/-5

no handling does not go out the window when lowered
ask me how I know


It may not handle as well as my other also lowered car, but it's close enough

[Renngeist]

Originally Posted by Antomero

These car may look great with the lowered stance.
But suffer incredibly in the handling department. IMO

Pick your poison!

What a clowny thing to say. I suppose race cars don’t handle as well as a road car because they’re lowered? The stock setup leaves a lot to be desired. There’s a difference between lowering your car for a look and lowering it with performance in mind. It’s easy to do either.

I’d also venture to guess you’ve never driven your car “hard” I’d thats what you believe.

[Antomero]

Originally Posted by Renngeist

What a clowny thing to say. I suppose race cars don’t handle as well as a road car because they’re lowered? The stock setup leaves a lot to be desired. There’s a difference between lowering your car for a look and lowering it with performance in mind. It’s easy to do either.

I’d also venture to guess you’ve never driven your car “hard” I’d thats what you believe.

Read what I wrote…a “stock set up”. Race cars have an entirely different set up. Spindles are raised for corrrct suspension geometry.

I drive my Porsche hard 80% of the time. I also lowered, corner balanced, and aligned it. With a stock set-up. So I very well know the differences. So no, it not a clowny thing to say.

Stock suspension works best at factory settings! IMO

[Antomero]

Originally Posted by speednme1

You do realize USA factory specs are to appease the government and not the car. Stock set-up are for purist who wipe down their car with a diaper..lol

My car rides on a true euro ride height.
108mm. +/-5.


Not an invented euro height. Of 25” front fender 25” 1/2 rear fender measurements

[Munky King]

I like to think that the stance on my 912 fits the ‘used rally’ style… but I’ve been wrong before!

[Renngeist]

Originally Posted by Antomero

Read what I wrote…a “stock set up”. Race cars have an entirely different set up. Spindles are raised for corrrct suspension geometry.

I drive my Porsche hard 80% of the time. I also lowered, corner balanced, and aligned it. With a stock set-up. So I very well know the differences. So no, it not a clowny thing to say.

Stock suspension works best at factory settings! IMO

Drove my 89 very hard at stock height and lower than euro ride height and i guarantee it handled significantly better at the lowered height.

It’s an absolute clown thing to say. Factory ride height is the way it is because of silly regulations. Not because it’s the “optimal setup”.

[Antomero]

Originally Posted by Renngeist

Drove my 89 very hard at stock height and lower than euro ride height and i guarantee it handled significantly better at the lowered height.

It’s an absolute clown thing to say. Factory ride height is the way it is because of silly regulations. Not because it’s the “optimal setup”.

You need some knowledge on suspension geometry and function. Chuck from Elephant Racing is a great person to educate you on
air-cooled Porsche suspension geometry and function.

[chrisbalich]

Can we quit bickering about optimal handling based on an arbitrary spec?

What is optimal for one may not be for another.

It's like facebook in here today.

To stay on topic, here's a pic of my car with its most recent cornerbalance and motorsport alignment.
I'd prefer the front come down a touch. We may try to do that after I make the next round of body changes.

[icarp]

Originally Posted by chrisbalich

Can we quit bickering about optimal handling based on an arbitrary spec?

What is optimal for one may not be for another.

It's like facebook in here today.

To stay on topic, here's a pic of my car with its most recent cornerbalance and motorsport alignment.
I'd prefer the front come down a touch. We may try to do that after I make the next round of body changes.

I think you have gotten the alignment just right !
I is not easy to achieve that level of grip, well done !

I agree with the statement every car is a little bit different , as well as driver preference

[Renngeist]

Originally Posted by Antomero

You need some knowledge on suspension geometry and function. Chuck from Elephant Racing is a great person to educate you on
air-cooled Porsche suspension geometry and function.

Very well aware of suspension geometry and function. I’m sure even chuck would agree that factory setup isn’t “optimal”.

[CarlP]

Chris, I’ve sort of followed your journey, and its obvious that you’ve done an amazing job. Hard to get that much tire/wheel under a car that low without a lot of rubbing. Congratulations. It’s great to see someone innovate.

BTW, at one point, someone told me that my front end looked “high”. Keep in mind that the fronts are 205-50-15, and there is less than 4” under the front valence. Do it the way you like.

[twickes]

I'll play...my old 78 Mocha Black 911

[Antomero]

This is a true euro ride height from Porsche factory. Just to clarify the mixed information people believe is euro height

IMO… this look more appropriate than the slammed look.

[chrisbalich]

Originally Posted by Antomero

This is a true euro ride height from Porsche factory. Just to clarify the mixed information people believe is euro height

IMO… this look more appropriate than the slammed look.

BRO.
It is past time to drop it.
You're talking to yourself at this point.
Your posts on this topic are no longer informative or helpful. You're just badgering everyone.

[Antomero]

Originally Posted by chrisbalich

BRO.
It is past time to drop it.
You're talking to yourself at this point.
Your posts on this topic are no longer informative or helpful. You're just badgering everyone.

FYI I’m not trying to badger anyone.
So don’t try that bro

[LJ851]

Can we all just drive our 911s at the ride height we each want and let others do the same ?

[Antomero]

Originally Posted by LJ851

Can we all just drive our 911s at the ride height we each want and let others do the same ?

Definitely!!!! :-)

[Jjm4life]

Originally Posted by chrisbalich

BRO.
It is past time to drop it.
You're talking to yourself at this point.
Your posts on this topic are no longer informative or helpful. You're just badgering everyone.

This thread needs Less old man yelling at clouds, more “slammed” Porsches