9x16" wheels on a Carrera

[danishcarnut]

Will this: Porsche 911/930/Turbo/944 Replica Fuchs Wheel 9"x16":eBay Motors (item 370275219797 end time Jan-12-10 17:32:41 PST)

Fit on a 1974 with Carrera-flares ??? Or will I have to go with 8x16" instead ?

[H-viken]

Can't see what offset these wheels have but it is my understanding that the original 9" "sticks out" just as much as the 8". The extra inch is added to the inside so to speak. In other words I'd assume a 9" would fit if you can fit an 8". Someone else pls correct me if I'm wrong.

Can see that it is Sierra Madre Collection that advertise these wheels. Admittedly I have only bought from them once. Fortunately the good I bought was cheap, since what I received was junk. Their response when confronted was a little disheartening;

QUOTE
Yes you are right, the horn button you purchased was very cheap in price and it's quality.
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Why one would knowingly offer junk is beyond me.

[danishcarnut]

The offset is 15mm. Think the original 8" is 10.5mm

Only bought from them once, and it was okey. Bought a Bursch muffler....
But don't know if their wheels are okey ? Maybe someone here has an answer to that ??

[wesayso]

They sell the same brand, Euromeister, Fuchs replica that our host sells.
Check out the prices on Pelican before you buy here

[H-viken]

Originally Posted by danishcarnut

The offset is 15mm. Think the original 8" is 10.5mm

Only bought from them once, and it was okey. Bought a Bursch muffler....
But don't know if their wheels are okey ? Maybe someone here has an answer to that ??

Then you should be fine.

911 Wheel Weights

[Bill Verburg]

ET 15 is the correct o/s for 9" wheels to be used w/ rear SC/Carrera flares. There is actually some flexibility w/ this as the ET can go a bit lower and still fit.

Still, ET15 9" is what I would want on my car.

[paulgtr]

how does putting 9's on the back affect handling compared to 8's? if you have 7 x 16's in front with 205 55's?

[teamfee3]

I have run both and unless you are doing track events, or have some giant hp motor, the tire you choose will probably make more of a difference in actual feel while driving than the extra width. It sure as hell looks more badass.

[Bill Verburg]

Originally Posted by paulgtr

how does putting 9's on the back affect handling compared to 8's? if you have 7 x 16's in front with 205 55's?

The wider the wheel wrt a given tire the better performance can be obtained from that tire, the narrower the wheel wrt the same tire the more cushey the ride will be

for max performance you will always want to use a wheel at the wide end of design spec. for a given tire

[paulgtr]

so an optimized tire for a 9 inch rim would be? a 245? will that be too much tire compared to a 205 front and cause understeer? would a 215 sit well on a 7 inch rim?

[Noah930]

Originally Posted by Bill Verburg

The wider the wheel wrt a given tire the better performance can be obtained from that tire, the narrower the wheel wrt the same tire the more cushey the ride will be

for max performance you will always want to use a wheel at the wide end of design spec. for a given tire

Understood. But most people don't think: hey, I want to run a 245 tire so what rim width should I buy?

Instead people think along the lines of: I can go with a 9" wide wheel, so should I go for a 235 or a 275? (Assuming both tire widths will fit under your fenders).

Disadvantages of a wider tire: weight, cost, and possibly heavier feel to steering.

[jtkkz]

16x7 fronts = 205/55
16x9 rears = 245/45

this are the size tires/fuchs wheels I run on my '74 carrera

[Bill Verburg]

Originally Posted by paulgtr

so an optimized tire for a 9 inch rim would be? a 245? will that be too much tire compared to a 205 front and cause understeer? would a 215 sit well on a 7 inch rim?

there are many things that will cause a small change in the handling of a car, wheel and tire width are 2. Will 205/245 under steer more than 225/245 on the same chassis. Yes. Does it make a significant difference? certainly not and especially so for street use. Would I personally prefer 225/245 on 8 & 9 for track? yes. For street? Das macht nichs, it just doesn't matter. Does 245 fit a 9 better than and 8? yes.

just remember to think through want you want when it's done(they're never really done but do think about what you want and how irt will be used)

front fit is increasingly difficult as the wheel and tire width and height increase. 205/55 on a stock ET23.3 Fuch is already a tight fit on a lowered car. You can go wider w/ increased ET(up to around 31mm) up to 245 but each incremental increase is exponentially harder to achieve,

225/45 on 8ET28 +/-3 w/ 245/45 on 9 ET 15 +5 is a really good set up

[MOMO3.2]

Yes, the 9" Fuchs do look bada$$.

Mike

[MBAtarga]

Danishcarnut,

Just to emphasize, the ebay auction you linked to is for "FAKE" fuchs. Other than the "fuchs" name, they have little if anything in common with the original brand wheels.

Also, you would likely want to purchase the 7" version of the FAKE fuchs so that the front/rear wheels match.

[danishcarnut]

Originally Posted by MBAtarga

Danishcarnut,

Just to emphasize, the ebay auction you linked to is for "FAKE" fuchs. Other than the "fuchs" name, they have little if anything in common with the original brand wheels.

Also, you would likely want to purchase the 7" version of the FAKE fuchs so that the front/rear wheels match.

Yeah, I know they are replicas, but thought it would look exactly as the originals ?
In that case I'll need the fronts too, as You mention. In fact I don't really know if the ones I have on the car now, is original Fuchs or not ???

[Richard Burns]

I have 9x16 Fuchs'on my Carrera 3.0 and the only problem that I have had was clearance between my tyres and the aircon tubes under the right rear fender. Too wide a tyre rubbed against them during track days.
Richard.

[wildcat077]

I'm presently using nine inch Fuchs replicas along with 245/45/16 tires on the rear of my 89 narrow body Coupe with no issues whatsoever.If you can find a good set of 951 offset eight inch rims for the front you will have the ultimate set up as far as 16 inch wheels go !

As far as having replicas on your car,for street use there is no problem,just don't use them for track days ...

Phil

[Marined]

Is it ok to put 225/50/16 tires on the 9' wheels for the rear and 205/50/16 on the front?

Also, is it ok to use the Euromeister 9' wheels on track days? If no, why & what is the limit when not on the track? Are these wheels for looks only?

Thanks for your input.

[Bill Verburg]

Originally Posted by Marined

Is it ok to put 225/50/16 tires on the 9' wheels for the rear and 205/50/16 on the front?

Also, is it ok to use the Euromeister 9' wheels on track days? If no, why & what is the limit when not on the track? Are these wheels for looks only?

Thanks for your input.

no, it is not ok to put 225/50x16 on 9" wheels. If you check the tire manufacturer's sites(or even Tirerack) 225/50 is spec'ed for an 8" wheel max.

you can use 205/50 front and 225/50 rear on 6 & 6, 6 & 7, 7 & 7, 7 & 8 or even 8 & 8 if you choose. I'd use 7 & 8 myself

you can also use 205/50(or 55) & 245/45 x16 on 6 or 7 front and 9 rear

You can use them but do monitor them carefully, even the much stronger oem Fuchs will eventually crack and fail, a less robust wheel will just fail sooner. The issue is delayed by using street radials and not R radials