10% and 15% Alchohol in our gasoline

[bradusm3]

Anybody have a solution? to this politically motivated movement? GM has offered FUEL TREATMENT PLUS to prevent corrosion due to the water in alki.
Could be a nasty problem for older cars and bikes.

[Flieger]

We have had E10 for years here. No other choice. I just use it- the 91 octane.

[steely]

where to find ethanol free gas from another thread today http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/598858-ethanol-free-gas.html

[Noah930]

Originally Posted by Flieger

We have had E10 for years here. No other choice. I just use it- the 91 octane.

Even at your local Chevron stations? I've noticed the ones in my part of LA are ethanol-free. (Or maybe the stations around me just aren't displaying the 10% EtOH stickers on the pumps.)

[DRACO A5OG]

Originally Posted by Noah930

Even at your local Chevron stations? I've noticed the ones in my part of LA are ethanol-free. (Or maybe the stations around me just aren't displaying the 10% EtOH stickers on the pumps.)

Where?

[rusnak]

Stabil for cars that sit. I also run BG 44K twice a year in a full tank of gas. Do not run the tank completely dry.

[ben parrish]

Originally Posted by rusnak

Stabil for cars that sit. I also run BG 44K twice a year in a full tank of gas. Do not run the tank completely dry.

Stabil and BG for me also although I have stations here that sell non-ethanol gas so that's all I ever put in the 911.
I do, however, question the not running the tank till empty. Being that water is heavier than fuel, won't the water, if present, be nearest the pick up at all times?

Ben

[tcar]

Some use 'Marine Stabil' with every tank. It's blue Stabil. Any auto parts store.

[Flieger]

Originally Posted by steely

where to find ethanol free gas from another thread today http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/598858-ethanol-free-gas.html

I see CA is not listed there.

[tharbert]

Originally Posted by ben parrish

Stabil and BG for me also although I have stations here that sell non-ethanol gas so that's all I ever put in the 911.
I do, however, question the not running the tank till empty. Being that water is heavier than fuel, won't the water, if present, be nearest the pick up at all times?

Ben

Ever shake a bottle of Italian dressing? A quarter tank would tend to slosh a bit, throwing water up into the gas. Keeping the sloshing to a minimum would reduce the of chance of the water mixing with the gas then entering the delivery system.

[brads911sc]

This is mandated federally, not state by state. There are very few stations on that list. less than 1/10th of 1% of all the stations in a given state... they all get their gas from the same suppliers/logistics companies... so unles they are refining their own fuel probably just a missing sticker unless its race gas...

[Flat Six]

Originally Posted by tcar

Some use 'Marine Stabil' with every tank. It's blue Stabil. Any auto parts store.

Sta-bil and variants work to minimize the ill effects of water in the fuel system but nothing I've found will deal with the corrosive effects of the ethanol itself on the (very-expensive-to-replace-and-when-they-fail-suddenly-will-turn-your-911-into-a-tremendous-ball-of-flame) fuel system components used in vehicles manufactured before the early to mid-90s.

[Sporttracguy]

stabil ethanol treatment

Sta-bil has a new ethanol treatment but Im not sure how well it works. It says that it prevents corrosion

Sporttracguy

[HarryD]

10% Ethanol is nothing but bad news.

Some threads:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/566213-ethanol-fuels.html

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/385016-effects-ethanol-gas.html

[ben parrish]

Originally Posted by tharbert

Ever shake a bottle of Italian dressing? A quarter tank would tend to slosh a bit, throwing water up into the gas. Keeping the sloshing to a minimum would reduce the of chance of the water mixing with the gas then entering the delivery system.

But, my point is that just like the vinegar resting at the bottom of the dressing bottle, the water will settle to the bottom of the fuel tank. The p/u for our cars is at the lowest point in the tank.

[Noah930]

Originally Posted by tharbert

Keeping the sloshing to a minimum would reduce the of chance of the water mixing with the gas then entering the delivery system.

How am I supposed to keep the sloshing to a minimum in a 911? Prius, maybe. But then again, those things run on Manna, or so I'm told.

[Duke]

Originally Posted by Noah930

Even at your local Chevron stations? I've noticed the ones in my part of LA are ethanol-free. (Or maybe the stations around me just aren't displaying the 10% EtOH stickers on the pumps.)

All stations in Calif. sell 10% ethanol---no label is required to be posted on the tanks thanks to AB1650 which was passed in 1998 and became effective Jan. 1. 1999. I test mine with a test kit I bought from Fuel Testers. Works great!

[KNS]

With your test kit do you find the amount of Ethanol to be a consistent 10%? Higher or lower?

[nineball]

Originally Posted by Sporttracguy

stabil ethanol treatment

Sta-bil has a new ethanol treatment but Im not sure how well it works. It says that it prevents corrosion

Sporttracguy

i just saw a commercial for that today and was wondering about grabbing some myself.

[Danny_Ocean]

Filled up today: