1970 911 Summjary -Equipment, Options

[Irish911]

Thanks Gary. So it sounds like it was an option if it was part of the Performance Group. I would be very interested in seeing some pictures of your car, especially if you have some early pictures. I'll PM you with my e-mail if that is OK.

[PropellerHead]

My '71 911T coupe (09/70 production) also has the trailing edge trim on the front bumper as well as matching leading edge trim on the rear bumper.
My car has the wide deco trim (S appearance group), S gauges, gold letters on the deck lid.
It was original with Mahle magnesium wheels, factory A/C (different than dealer A/C) but I believe those are common between 70/71.
It also has the 911T badge just below the glove box door.
Did '70 have the 2,2 sticker in the rear window? My '71 did originally. Original owner removed it when the 2.4L was released.....but there remains witness mark on the glass!

[gamin]

Irish911 - You have a PM.
Propellerhead - Yes, the 2.2 decal in the rear window is original. I believe they are still available since I sourced one. Yet to be reinstalled. Mine was original with steel wheels. It now rides on deep 6's. I like the look of the steelies but they are noticeably heavier. Also have 911T on glove box door and gold letters on rear deck. All original stuff. No A/C. Mine was euro delivery (US spec). I was in the Navy in Spain at the time. I was never offered A/C.

[Allen_70S]

Our host has the reproduction 2,2 engine decal for the rear window, which came on both the 70 and 71. Do a part search - decal.

Al

[PropellerHead]

Originally Posted by Allen_70S

Our host has the reproduction 2,2 engine decal for the rear window, which came on both the 70 and 71. Do a part search - decal.

Al

Thanks guys. I already have one! I bought it here (of course) and it is installed. It was fairly easy to place correctly since the original sticker witness was still on the glass. My question was answered regarding '70 models also having this sticker. Thanks!

[frosty2]

Nice thread thanks for starting Al my car is a 73 euro 911t with 2.4 and not sure
whats original on it but it also has the 911t on the glove box.

Mike

[bobolsn]

Hopefully the thread hasn't died. I have had my 71T for 30 years, and I believe I am the third owner. It is presently apart and I am making a push to resurrect it this year. The second owner was a Porsche shop owner that dabbled in selling cars, so I am not sure what he did to the car (took off, sold, replaced, etc.). As a result, I have a couple of questions regarding the authenticity of the car.

Car was built in 7/1970, color - Pastel Blue 2020, comfort kit (911 S Trim), and Chrome wheels. Both door key slots are horizontal, 911T is on the glove box, the seat release button is rectangular with a lip to assist in pulling up, and the logos on the rear lid are gold.

1- My car has a rectangular drivers mirror not the Durant mirror cited in P. Johnston's book. Do any 71's have these rectangular mirrors?

2. I do not have a rear sway bar. Were all 911's fitted with rear sways?

I know I will have other questions, or I can provide additional information/verification, so I hope this continues.

Thanks

Bob

[Allen_70S]

bobolson:

By the way, I'm not a 70/71 expert by any means, although I've owned my '70 since '78. I thought it would be fun to understand the car better, and kind of got carried away with the details.

If you have not checked it out already, go to the 911t.pca.org/options website. It has much good information about your car's options, and is an official Porsche document.

The rectangular (flag) exterior mirrors were introduced in 1972. Prior to then the mirrors were round Durant, of various diameters. I'm fairly certain our host has reproduction Durant mirrors for sale.

In '70 and '71 the S came with front and rear anti-sway bars standard. The E's left the factory with the Boge hydrodynamic suspension and no anti-sway bars. Anti-sway bars were not standard equipment on the T. Front and rear anti-sway bars were a factory option on the T. One source states that a front-only anti-sway bar was a factory option on the T. I have found no information as to whether anti-sway bars were an after-market possibility with the E's Boge hydropneumatic suspension.

In two, or three months I plan to reissue this thread (-REDUX) to collect and assimilate the new information that has been contributed and correct the errors in my original post. Thanks for all the input from you guys. Keep it coming if you have additional information. What's surprised me in this research is the large number of differences between the 70 and 71. The vast majority of the sources only reference the different glove box latch.

Al

[jrsully]

This is a great thread Al, glad I was referred to it. I have 71T and have a question on the gold emblem/upgrade on the S appearance package (comfort group) my 71 T has the S trim (rocker mldgs, front/rear aluminum cap mldgs on fenders and quarters etc.). Cannot tell if original for sure, but my car has gold 'PORSCHE" lettering and silver 911T on the rear decklid and has silver "targa" emblem on the stainless band. Would the gold emblem upgrade make ALL emblems gold, just the deck lid emblems or is my present configuration correct.? Thx for the help

[Allen_70S]

Sully:
Regarding your question, check out the referenced web site 1970 911T Options. Page 17 has the information regarding the engine lid emblems. It states that the silver engine lid emblems were standard for the T, but that the gold color for both (not separately) was optional. Either separately for those two pieces only , or as part of the larger Appearance Group option.

The silver Targa emblem for the T is new information to me. I'll include it in the next update. My S has gold Targa lettering on the stainless band, and I assume the E also would have had the gold Targa lettering. There is no mention in this reference as to the gold Targa emblem being available as an option on the T.

Al

[lagrassa]

All great info.

Does anyone have the production number breakdown of the exterior paint colors in 1970?

Mine is light yellow and would be nice to know how many others were?

Thanks.

[lagrassa]

Originally Posted by Irish911

It was my understanding that the S instrument option for the T and E included the additional oil cooler. Is this incorrect?

My 70 T Targa has the optional S gauges (also listed on the original window sticker for $40) but does NOT have the additional front-mounted oil cooler.

Interestingly, mine has the 14" Fuchs which were an option, but those are NOT listed as an option on the same window sticker. Perhaps the dealer put them on originally, but again, no record of that either. I am the second owner, so don't know all the car's history.

[H-viken]

The COA for 911E from 1970 lists "US Equipment" - anyone know what this entails?

[Allen_70S]

Guys:

Its been 4 years since I visited this post. Here are some facts/opinions:

1) Only the S had the standard equipment auxiliary oil cooler in the front area of the right front fender. It was not a factory option on the E and T.

2) To my knowledge there is no compilation of '70 911 production quantity broken out by factory color.

3) The original owner of my car (I'm #3 - Bought in April 1978 - coming up on our 40th anniversary!) was a meticulous record keeper, and I have all his paperwork. He picked the car up at the factory. The only reference to U.S. Equipment in that paperwork is that it cost 625 DM in January 1970. I'm sure U.S. mandated smog equipment was a component. I also think that U.S. regulations required a buzzer to sound when the driver's door was opened with the key still in the ignition.

Regards, Al

[djpateman]

USA Equipment included several things. There was the safety glass windshield, sealed beam headlights, North American signal lens set, instruments in English, manuals & warranty books for the USA, VIN tag on A pillar, Compliance decal on drivers door latch post, North American engine versions.

[911Tfan]

I have read this entire thread and I still find it confusing.

[911Tfan]

It seems like there are a wide variety of early 911 configurations since in addition to ordering a stock T, E, or S in R.O.W. or US trim, one could option the cars basically any way they want paying for each option individually. I thought my car was going to fit the mold of a T with the
"comfort package" but it seems there is more to it than that.