Anyone put 245/50ZR16 on narrow body?

[Ronnie's.930]

Originally Posted by Tidybuoy

I think you could also say a 996 (non C4s) has a narrow body. It was my impression that "Narrow Body 911" commonly refers to 74-77 non-Carrera,Base or S. Maybe you should start a poll and see what people how people see it.

Well, since my decree is the only one that really matters, from this point forth, all of you shall refer to all non turbo flared 911s as "narrow bodies" as they do, in fact, have very narrow bodies relative to the turbo flared variants!

[Tidybuoy]

Originally Posted by Ronnie's.930

Well, since my decree is the only one that really matters, from this point forth, all of you shall refer to all non turbo flared 911s as "narrow bodies" as they do, in fact, have very narrow bodies relative to the turbo flared variants!

Let's just say that you will never be as narrow as me unless you shed some off your ass.

[LJ851]

Originally Posted by Ronnie's.930

Well, since my decree is the only one that really matters, from this point forth, all of you shall refer to all non turbo flared 911s as "narrow bodies" as they do, in fact, have very narrow bodies relative to the turbo flared variants!

And 14 and 15 inch RSR flares make your turbo flares look like goosebumps, where does it end ?

[Ronnie's.930]

Originally Posted by LJ851

And 14 and 15 inch RSR flares make your turbo flares look like goosebumps, where does it end ?

I doubt that anyone would call a 911 equiped with RSR flares a "narrow body" (who knows though, this board has quite a few kooks who use it)! Guess I need to amend my decree so as not to create more confusion!

[Ronnie's.930]

Originally Posted by Tidybuoy

Let's just say that you will never be as narrow as me unless you shed some off your ass.

I suppose I could do that by heading into a ditch backwards (easy to do with one of these fatass turbos)?! Ha!

[privatepang]

Yeah narrow body is prior to 77

Anything else is either SC flared or carrera flared if they are not Turbo flared.

Thats what i was told anyways

[56 nomad]

and some are narrower than others..pre-69 cars then 69-77 same flare. ben

[Bill Verburg]

There are only 3 body styles, not counting cab and targa and some racing permutations from 1969 up

narrow body, 4x 5.5 or 4x 6" wheels stock, no flares to speak of 1969-1977

SC/Carrera body, 6 & 7 or 7 & 8 or 6 & 8 wheels, rear flare is called a 9" flare, front is as on n/b, 1973-77 Carrera 2.7 7 3.0, 1976-89 SC & Carrera

930/RSR body, 6 & 7 or 7 & 9 but w/ big spacers f/r, front is a 9" flare rear is an 11" flare, 1973RSR, 1974 Carrera 3.9RS, '75 -89 930

[wholberg]

The issue I have with them is they are 1 inch taller than 245/45/16. This is roughly a 4% increase in the distance of the axle center from the ground with an associated loss of acceleration. I don't know if the loss of acceleration would really be noticable, but it would mess with my head.

[tadd]

Bill:
So just to be a delinquent , what's a SWB flare? Their even smaller than the 69 since that is from the 911R...

*hides behind large object*

t

[Esel Mann]

Drola,

Let us know how it turns out and post some pics!

For my 84 which has the non-turbo standard fender flarings (same body style as your 87) I have 9x16 rims in the back. It is lowered, and I could not tolerate anything larger than 245/45. And that is with some rolling of the fenders.

[Esel Mann]

Wholberg,

If you are after spool-up, change to x15's and machine your flywheel

Yes, there's more inertia to overcome which penalizes acceleration, but there's also more inertia available to you into, through, and out of the turn !

[Bill Verburg]

Originally Posted by tadd

Bill:
So just to be a delinquent , what's a SWB flare? Their even smaller than the 69 since that is from the 911R...

*hides behind large object*

t

that was why I limited my description to the lwb cars built from '69 to '89

The swb cars built from '64 -68 were n/b too and didn't even have the slight hint of a flare seen on the '69-77 n/b cars they came w/ 4 x4.5 or 4x 5.5 or 4x 6" wheels.

[Bill Verburg]

Originally Posted by Esel Mann

Drola,

Let us know how it turns out and post some pics!

For my 84 which has the non-turbo standard fender flarings (same body style as your 87) I have 9x16 rims in the back. It is lowered, and I could not tolerate anything larger than 245/45. And that is with some rolling of the fenders.

Most SC/Carrera can tolerate up to a 275 even 285 if perfect wheel o/s is used and some work is done, it's not easy but it can be done.

245/45 on a 9x16ET15 wheel should be an easy fit w/o an extra work and w/ plenty of clearance at any ride height.

I used to run 275/40 on 9.5 on my '76 C3, but have gone back to 255/40 x17 on the same 9.5's for street use, this is also an easy fit w/ SC/Carrera flares and the correct wheel o/s

[Bill Verburg]

Originally Posted by Esel Mann

Drola,

Let us know how it turns out and post some pics!

For my 84 which has the non-turbo standard fender flarings (same body style as your 87) I have 9x16 rims in the back. It is lowered, and I could not tolerate anything larger than 245/45. And that is with some rolling of the fenders.

Most SC/Carrera can tolerate up to a 275 even 285 if perfect wheel o/s is used and some work is done, it's not easy but it can be done.

245/45 on a 9x16ET15 wheel should be an easy fit w/o an extra work and w/ plenty of clearance at any ride height.

I used to run 275/40 on 9.5 on my '76 C3, but have gone back to 255/40 x17 on the same 9.5's for street use, this is also an easy fit w/ SC/Carrera flares and the correct wheel o/s

[flyn-hawn]

225 50x16 on 7" and 245 45x16 on 8" no spacers no rubbing but not lowered to euro height yet, waiting for t-bars

[10 GT3]

I don't know about a 16x9, but I ran 245/50-16s Goodyears on my stock 16x7s for over a year with no issues. I had a rear tire blow out and when I went to a friend of mine that is a tire dealer, he had a pair of take offs he offered for free. Since a 7.0" wide wheel is the minimum spec wheel for a 245/50, I had them mounted up. My SC was still at the stock ride height at the time, so it didn't like awkward with the tall sidewall like it does on some of the lowered cars in this thread. Despite the narrow wheel and sidewall flex, I never had rubbing issues even when cornering at the limit. Handling improved a lot over the old 225s where the back end stayed a lot more in check under braking and in corners it would nicely pivot on the inside rear tire. Never really found a negative to it, but I would have preferred a wider wheel if I had a set. Sorry, I never took any pics of it with the medium rear tires.

There is nothing wrong with running a big tire as long as you have enough room to properly fit it. I have no problems with the 335/35-17 I run today on 17x13's, which are a little taller than 245/50-16's:



The fronts are 245/45s on 17x9.0" wheels, which are the same height and width as the rear setup discussed in this thread. When I was measuring for the backspacing for the new wheels, I used the 16x7's with 245/50s on the front to do the measurements.