1971 911T or "OMG what have I done"

[Spey]

Did not see answer to OP question on paint tag.

Drivers Door Jamb has Paint Code Tag (at least it does on my '73.5 & '76), a series of numbers with the first three being the factory paint color.

Looks like wonderful project!!

[wgwollet]

What I did on my 1971 T motor, was pull plugs, put in 5th gear and you and friends push the car and watch the crank......if it moves freely, good.

On my engine, it moved freely, but took engine out and tearing down to the case. Engine had much old oil, gummed up, has been setting since 1993. Carbs bad, heads dirty, pistons seem OK, need to slit case...

[mcaterino]

As Joe Bob said, someone did something strange with the original crank pulley. However, it does look like you could get a long flat-blade screwdriver between the center shaft and one of the nuts and turn by prying, again clockwise. It wouldn't be surprising if there was too much resistance to turn it by the fan belt, but could easily be broken free on the crank.

Give that a whirl and report back. Nice project BTW!

Mike

[darcher]

You've got a great survivor here that doesn't look like it's going to require a lot of body work, but plan on barakes and an engine rebuild. It's set too long. Even it turns over it probably needs rings, valves and guides, and resealing after all that time. But this is a great project!!Keep us all posted!

[Jlockmon]

The screwdriver approach has potential. Thanks. Tried it but things aren't breaking free yet. I'll let it soak some more and keep trying.

[kkinzli]

Welcome to the longhood club!! Your car certainly looks like a great candidate for a restoration. I went down the same path as Combatic suggested and did a piece by piece restoration so that I could enjoy my car as a driver during the project. The first things I did on mine included the flexible brake lines, brake caliper and master cylinder rebuild, and shift linkage and throttle linkage bushings. Here is a link to my thread http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/660560-saving-rat-restoring-69t.html

If you have any questions this forum is a great place to learn as I learned most everything during my restoration here. Best of luck getting the engine to turn over.

Cheers,
Kristoph

[mfyoung1086]

oh geez that original paint has a glorious patina! Please don't respray that car!

[Grady Clay]

This (violet bracket) is an aftermarket A/C adaptor.
The A/C pulley (now missing) was originally mounted on the end of the adaptor.
The adaptor is bolted (red arrows) to the original Factory fan belt pulley.
The original pulley-to-crankshaft bolt can be accessed in the middle of the adaptor (green arrow).
You may need to use a ‘deep’ 3/8” drive socket for this.
Install the socket on the bolt and then attach a long-handle ratchet wrench.

Sell the adaptor on Pelican.
Someone will find a use.

Best,
Grady

[Jlockmon]

Thanks Grady. The PO indicated that at one time there was an aftermarket AC unit in the car. It's long gone but that explains the pulley. Access is very limited but we'll find a way...

Cheers,

[dfink]

There seems like no better time than to suggest you jump right in and drop the engine and tranny. It is going to need to be done anyhow so just do it. You just about drop the engine on a porsche to change the air filter. Nothing to it after you have done it.

[scottb]

How about cutting off the belt and using a strap wrench either on the pulley or on the outer flange? You might need to put a cheater pipe on the strap wrench handle...

HTH. Good luck!

[daepp]

Originally Posted by scottb

How about cutting off the belt and using a strap wrench either on the pulley or on the outer flange? You might need to put a cheater pipe on the strap wrench handle...

HTH. Good luck!

THAT is a great idea!

[scottb]

Originally Posted by DAEpperson

THAT is a great idea!

Every decade or so I have a good one...

Seriously, though, maybe even something like this adjustable handle chain wrench would do the job. Or something like this chain wrench with a long breaker bar. A traditional strap wrench, though, might be better in that the adjustments aren't limited to the size of the chain links.

All you need to do is break it loose, and when trying to do that leverage (and liberal use of Marvel Mystery Oil) is your friend!

[Trackrash]

Deja vu. My '71 looked EXACTLY like your car when I first bought it. Is that the original paint or color?

Fix the mechanicals, leave the paint alone and drive it. Awesome car, nice find.

[jsoderbe]

Hi,

+1 on the above. Dont tear too much into it, keep it on the road instead! I have seen guys just tearing down a nice driver to give it a total restoration, ending up with an empty shell and 50 boxes of parts that sits for decades.

The best advice so far on the engine (when breaks are working) is to roll it outside, put it in 5th gear and take the help of some buddies. First, start by having it in gear, gently rock it back and forth (only push on the "forth" to keep the engine potentially moving in the right direction) and check for movement. Then you push harder and harder, until the tires are slipping.

When you feel you have nothing to loose, you cant get it to move no matter what, you could always ask your buddies to push it hard, put it in first gear and release the clutch quickly when you are at speed. BUT, that might break stuff, so be cautious!!!

If the engine is frozen, my guess is that you will break the crank pulley bolt before it moves. Ask me how I know....

Regards,

Johan

[Jlockmon]

Gotta love the voice of experience! I'll finish up the brakes and try taking her for a "push" around the neighborhood.

I like the advice to get her running and just drive it. She's solid enough to do that and I don't need a bunch of boxes of parts sitting around.

And no new paint. I've hit a couple of spots with some polish and wax. She'll clean up nicely.

Thanks

[irl]

Im probably going to get slammed here but I'd be too tempted to just change the oil, purge the gas and put in new and turn the key and see what happens before I'd drop the engine. Its not like its been sitting n a barn for 20 years. Even the oil on the outside of the case is visible.

Looks like a lot of fun, Do some rust searches here to learn the hot spots and dig around the front pan and jacking points. Nice find though, mind letting us know what you paid?

[jpnovak]

Will it turn with the starter? I would try that first. Even with old oil you will not do any damage spinning at 200 rpm with the starter for a few seconds. Just disconnect the CDI unit so that it can not fire.

[tomolmsted]

Unmolested. The best kind. Good job with purchase!

[jsoderbe]

Update?

Johan