LED Brake Lights

[Canada Kev]

And for the record, your tail/brake and signal light boards are fantastic. They really do stand out and make the car more visible in all light conditions. Highly recommended.

[Ctopher]

Originally Posted by spoke

David, thanks for your interest. I am getting parts to build some more boards. The plan is to build out the remaining 3 sets of white boards I have. I want to get a few of these in people's cars to see what they think. Really interested in the light pattern as it's not as ideal as I'd like to see as they bleed a bit upward.

I will price the first 3 white sets at $100/set. After that the price will be $165/set. If you're interested, you could be first in line for a white set. I have another guy interested so one more white set is available.

I would be interested in a white set!

[spoke]

Originally Posted by Ctopher

I would be interested in a white set!

Excellent! The 3 sets are spoken for. I'll let you know contact info later when I get parts and do the builds.

[4flyboy]

Spoke,

I bought and am pleased with your brake light and 3rd brake light mod. If this is for a set of fog lights for 84-89 cars I'm in.....need a few other peices too but put me in line for a set of these.

Scott

[RWebb]

Originally Posted by spoke

I had a request from a '79 911 SC owner see if my LED boards would fit in a fiberglass taillight fixture distributed by these guys:

https://www.f-s-h.com/Tail-light-housings-for-911

Has anyone heard of them or used their products? The fixtures do not have sidemarker lights and the reverse is a very small opening. Turns out the rear turnsignal board fits right in but the brake board will have to be custom sized to fit in the fixture.

I've heard of them. I think they are getting a lot of questions on LED options.

I'd be a buyer...

[Racerbvd]

Originally Posted by spoke

David, thanks for your interest. I am getting parts to build some more boards. The plan is to build out the remaining 3 sets of white boards I have. I want to get a few of these in people's cars to see what they think. Really interested in the light pattern as it's not as ideal as I'd like to see as they bleed a bit upward.

I will price the first 3 white sets at $100/set. After that the price will be $165/set. If you're interested, you could be first in line for a white set. I have another guy interested so one more white set is available.

Will these work with Amber lenses??

[spoke]

Originally Posted by Racerbvd

Will these work with Amber lenses??

Yes they will. Like putting a white lamp behind an amber lens.

[spoke]

Finally got the shape of the brake board done for the fiberglass light fixture. Took 3 iterations of the board to get the curves just right. Here's the new brake board shape with an existing brake board for the standard OEM 911 light fixture.

Notice anything wrong with the bulb socket for the brake light?

[chrisbalich]

single pole for single filament bulb?

[spoke]

Originally Posted by chrisbalich

single pole for single filament bulb?

Bingo!

However when I read about the fixture on their website, they do say these are for racing and not for road use. The socket is glued in and should be easily removed and a dual filament socket glued in place.

[famoroso]

Originally Posted by Canada Kev

And for the record, your tail/brake and signal light boards are fantastic. They really do stand out and make the car more visible in all light conditions. Highly recommended.

I've got Spoke's LEDs in both of my 911s. I'm a hardcore lighting geek and I couldn't be happier with the performance. They REALLY increase the visual footprint of these dainty cars, bringing this important safety aspect forwards by at least a few decades. It reduces a bit of the paranoia that I'll get rear ended by a soccer mom barreling down on me in her SUV while I'm stopped at a light on a bright / sunny day.

The lower current draw is icing on the cake. Win / win. Not seeing my voltmeter fluctuate in time with the turnsignals is oddly satisfying.

The rear sidemarkers are SO bright that I mistake the light on the road as another car in my blind spot. 😳 When I realize that it's me / my lil' ol' 911 putting out that kinda light, it makes me laugh out loud.

The rear sidemarker LED, and its wire, are visible through the lens. Spoke, is there a diffuser piece available for the rear sidemarkers (like the diffusers you provide for the front sidemarkers)?

Not a lighting pic, but this shot really drives home how tiny these cars are in today's supersized world...
https://www.instagram.com/p/BgzmVFyntWH/?igshid=1gv8gkhf4gz9y

[spoke]

Originally Posted by famoroso

The rear sidemarker LED, and its wire, are visible through the lens. Spoke, is there a diffuser piece available for the rear sidemarkers (like the diffusers you provide for the front sidemarkers)?

Sounds like you're missing an OEM diffuser if you can see the sidemarkers through the exterior lens. I can make a diffuser from the material I use for the front sidemarker. Shoot me your address and I'll send you a couple of diffusers.

Not a lighting pic, but this shot really drives home how tiny these cars are in today's supersized world...

That picture really shows how small these cars are.

[Harpo]

The fog lights off my 74 only have 4 tabs holding the lenses on

[Harpo]

[spoke]

Originally Posted by Harpo

The fog lights off my 74 only have 4 tabs holding the lenses on

Interesting. No problem opening up this foglight. It was a real bummer to not be able to open up the other foglight. I believe that one was bonded together.

Does this foglight have a gasket between the lens and the reflector?

So this is the 3rd different foglight design for the '69-'89 911 cars for which my LED brakes fit.

If you send me the foglight enclosures, I'll try to design a LED board to fit.

[4flyboy]

Hi Spoke,

I am thrilled with your brake and 3rd brake light kits, easy install, changes the whole character of the azz end at night.

I just purchased clear front marker and turn signal lenses for my '84 911. I'm assuming a pair of amber/white for the turn signals and you offer only white for the markers?

Lastly, am I to understand that you haven't had any luck with creating LED's for the 84-89 fog lamps?

Thanks, Scott

[spoke]

Originally Posted by 4flyboy

Hi Spoke,

I am thrilled with your brake and 3rd brake light kits, easy install, changes the whole character of the azz end at night.

Good to hear. Bottom line is to keep our classic cars safe with all the distracted drivers looking at their phones as they drive.

I just purchased clear front marker and turn signal lenses for my '84 911. I'm assuming a pair of amber/white for the turn signals and you offer only white for the markers?

Where did you purchase the clear sidemarker lenses? I didn't think Pelican had them. The turnsignal LEDs can be all amber or white/amber. The front sidemarker LEDs are only in amber color.

Lastly, am I to understand that you haven't had any luck with creating LED's for the 84-89 fog lamps?

Thanks, Scott

I'm still working on the 84-89 fog lamps. I have them on my car and PabloX has them on his car. The issue I'm working with is the light distribution of the LED lenses available. Below is the light distribution for Carclo Optic's 10192 lenses when put in front of Cree XP-G high power LEDs that I'm using. These lenses do not have a sharp cutoff like modern headlights have. I've tried to create some shades to cut off the upper range but they did not work and only cut the total intensity.

So I'm sending out 3 sets to some 911 owners for them to evaluate. The LED Fogs work well as DRL and I don't think they're too obnoxious at night. I want to get more opinions before doing general availability. The LED fogs burn about 9W per light and put out 2x the light intensity as the 35W bulbs. Plus the LEDs being used are 5700K color and very compatible with LED headlights.

[spoke]

Getting ready to send out a couple of sets of LED foglights for evaluation. The sets will consist of 2 LED boards with 8 Cree XP-G high-power LEDs running 350mA (9W), plastic clips to mount the boards and #2 screws to secure the boards in the lens.

The installation should be easy and basically plug-n-play. The only tricky part is popping the original bulb shade from the reflector. Once that is done, the LED boards should be easily installed.

To remove the bulb shade, remove the metal clip which holds the bulb in the reflector. Then support the reflector with a couple pieces of wood and with a screwdriver, gently tap out the shade by tapping opposite of each of the 3 securing tabs.

[spoke]

Here's what is in the LED foglight package. 2 boards, 8 clips and 10 screws.

[spoke]

The clips that I have right now will angle the board by 5 degrees downward to help mitigate the light distribution upward.

I categorize the clips in 3 sizes: tiny, small, and big. The tiny clip goes in the one corner of the lens which is very short. This is the lower outside of the lens. The tiny clip should fall right in to the corner of the lens as shown below.



Once the tiny clip is installed, the small clip will go on the other side.



Examining the big clips it will be noticed that one clip has a lower board perch than the other. This big clip with the lower perch will be put on the same side as the small clip.



Once all 4 clips are in place, the board can be placed on the clips. If the board rocks top to bottom, then the big clips are on the wrong side. The board will only sit on the clips if the side with the dc-dc converter is on the deep side.