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rennch 07-06-2015 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaefer (Post 8696920)
This is going to be a fun thread to watch. What wheels and tires are shown in the above pic?

Scott, they are Accumoto 15 X 9 & 11, with Avon Historic Slicks and the original Porsche Vintage Racing Pattern hand carved by some craftsman over at Roger Kraus.

rennch 07-08-2015 05:45 PM

Decisions, Decisions
 
So, I've been doing research for days on what parts to get where, and here's where I've landed so far. If you see any room for improvement, let me know.

Flywheel - Patrick Motorsports (sounds like that's where everyone gets it) - $370
Clutch - Unknown if needed.
Engine Crossbar and Cradle - Sourcing 3.0/3.2 from Pelican. Will raise engine to same level as 3.0.
Engine Tin - Sourcing 3.0/3.2 from Pelican
Camshaft/Power Steering Block off Plate - Patrick - $75
Oil Pressure Sending Unit - Pelican
Cone Air Filter - Timmons - $195
Transmission Studs - ? Pelican or Timmons
Oil Feed Pipe (instead of external cooler) - Timmons (Patrick's is very $$) - $145 (any other options?)
Accelerator Cable - Patrick or Jae Lee custom. - $290 - (Timmons is too flimsy)
Single Pulley Conversion - Timmons - $139 (vs. $385 at Patrick)
Ignition Coil Mount - Patrick or Jae Lee Custom - $120
Wiring Harness Conversion - Timmons or Custom (Timmy2) $184 (vs. $395 Patrick)
Oil Crossover Pipe to thermostat - Pelican
Oil Crossover Pipe from Engine - Pelican
Headers - Using 993 OEM headers
Muffler - Looking for Sport muffler
AC Bracket Removal - Custom

rennch 07-14-2015 08:32 PM

Was in Portland for a conference, manage see a vintage race at PIR, and stopped by the Rothsport racing facilities. Jeff, Carl, Earl, Scott and the others have put together such an unbelievably first class facility. It's just eye candy everywhere.

I picked up a few bits for my conversion. Oil tube extension, single pulley conversion, power steering block off plate, and a couple other juicy bits.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07...1f6d4e57d0.jpg

The bad news? Turns out I can't use my current transmission (7:3:1 mag case from a 72 911). So, I'm now in the market for a 915 from 82-86. Drag.




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rennch 07-14-2015 08:35 PM

Pure eye candy from Rothsport.

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midnight911 07-14-2015 08:59 PM

seems you enjoyed your stay in Portland! Great timing catching the vintage at PIR too. Congrats!

safe 07-14-2015 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by emptyo (Post 8710975)
The bad news? Turns out I can't use my current transmission (7:3:1 mag case from a 72 911). So, I'm now in the market for a 915 from 82-86. Drag.

Nothing wrong with a mag case, they are stronger in some way because of the steel inserts. It needs some additional reinforcement, but that is also needed for the later alu ones.
But the 7:31 R&P is too weak for a 3.6.

I'm fitting a G50 into my -69 and that is a proper head ache....

pors1968 07-15-2015 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by emptyo (Post 8702580)
So, I've been doing research for days on what parts to get where, and here's where I've landed so far. If you see any room for improvement, let me know.

Flywheel - Patrick Motorsports (sounds like that's where everyone gets it) - $370
Clutch - Unknown if needed.
Engine Crossbar and Cradle - Sourcing 3.0/3.2 from Pelican. Will raise engine to same level as 3.0.
Engine Tin - Sourcing 3.0/3.2 from Pelican
Camshaft/Power Steering Block off Plate - Patrick - $75
Oil Pressure Sending Unit - Pelican
Cone Air Filter - Timmons - $195
Transmission Studs - ? Pelican or Timmons
Oil Feed Pipe (instead of external cooler) - Timmons (Patrick's is very $$) - $145 (any other options?)
Accelerator Cable - Patrick or Jae Lee custom. - $290 - (Timmons is too flimsy)
Single Pulley Conversion - Timmons - $139 (vs. $385 at Patrick)
Ignition Coil Mount - Patrick or Jae Lee Custom - $120
Wiring Harness Conversion - Timmons or Custom (Timmy2) $184 (vs. $395 Patrick)
Oil Crossover Pipe to thermostat - Pelican
Oil Crossover Pipe from Engine - Pelican
Headers - Using 993 OEM headers
Muffler - Looking for Sport muffler
AC Bracket Removal - Custom

I would add 964. RPM

Trackrash 07-15-2015 10:30 AM

Excuse my ignorance, but have you considered installing an engine mounted oil cooler? Is that a viable option?

Great build. Makes me wish I was still in SD.:cool:

rennch 08-07-2015 07:20 AM

Still looking to source 3.2 engine tin and crossbar/console


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safe 08-07-2015 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by emptyo (Post 8743242)
Still looking to source 3.2 engine tin and crossbar/console


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You can modify the 3.6 bar if you have it. I bent and extended mine.

http://i1037.photobucket.com/albums/...psa8zf3ayg.jpg

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0396 08-07-2015 02:51 PM

Congrats with your 3.6 project.
One day, I would love to do the same.

rennch 08-29-2015 09:35 PM

UPDATE: sorry it's been forever since I have updated this thread. There's been a LOT of parts collecting.

This week I've been working on mounting my first oil cooler. I will have one of the fender, and one in the front bumper. Below are pictures of fabricating brackets for the fender mounted oil cooler.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08...deabb47ad7.jpg

I do use cardboard to mock up, and 1 inch flat steel to make the brackets. I'll put 90 degree outlets on the cooler and run the bumper mounted one inline.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08...8488c1fb4a.jpg

Here are the brackets, pre paint.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08...4415a37fe8.jpg

Using high temp engine enamel.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08...f6262544f5.jpg

Painted and installed. Tomorrow I'll work on fabbing the rx7 cooler in the front.

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It's SUPER solid. Very excited about it.


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quattrorunner 08-29-2015 11:24 PM

It's fun making functional important mods. That one looks good too. Make sure to block off as the factory did. You'll need it and a fan too.

rennch 08-30-2015 12:06 AM

How did the factory block it off?


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quattrorunner 08-30-2015 12:12 AM

Here is a picture of how they do it but your cooler is custom so you'll need to make some sheet metal block off to fit your application. Should be a tight seal from both sides of the cooler. You don't want air to choose simplest path because that's not through the cooler, it's around it.
http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/images/oil_circ/lower_stone_guard.JPG

rennch 08-30-2015 09:55 AM

I've got a separate thread on wiring the 1995 motor into my 1969 Chassis as well: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/878918-wiring-3-6-into-69-911-help.html

rennch 08-30-2015 09:59 AM

Question for you experts. My plan is to run the Setrab in the fender, then an RX7 Cooler in the front. Do you think the RX7 Cooler is necessary? Or will the Setrab do ok? Sea Level car, not a track car. (Autocrossed)

quattrorunner 08-30-2015 10:07 AM

You're doing away with one cooler already. One with a fan. I promise you need two. And you'll want to put a fan in the fender one. I think you'll be fine with two. If you went to Vegas there would be no doubt you'll want at least two. I've gone through this with a turbo in Vegas but even in cool weather it was clear the second fender cooler was wanted.

rennch 08-30-2015 10:15 AM

So you're suggesting to do another fender vs the front rx7? I have the bumper for it, and it's already been modded.


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quattrorunner 08-30-2015 10:20 AM

No, front cooler is fine.
Actually it's better.


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