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Porsche Crest FS: Carbon/Kevlar Protection Plate 1974-1989

These are available on a made-to-order, custom basis for $495.00. 3-4 week delivery (normally much faster but stuff happens), 20% deposit, balance plus shipping from MN 55605 due upon completion but prior to shipping. PM with any questions, thanks!!!

This is a carbon/kevlar replica of a factory protection plate part #91134116105. It is constructed from a single layer of carbon and several layers (between 3 and 8 depending on location) of carbon Kevlar. There is a single layer of 2mm honeycomb resin matrix core.

The part is vacuum resin infused and post cured in a computer controlled oven for 16 hours to ensure the greatest possible mechanical strength.

It is less than a quarter of the weight of a steel panel and is impressively stiff and strong.

I take pride in my work and strive to produce the highest quality parts possible. If you're interested in knowing more about the development process it may be worth visiting my latest build thread:

https://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/1159144-heavy-metal-part-deux-carbon-copy-6.html

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Oh HELL yeah!

I was just looking at the plate on my 1989 that needs to be restored, or replaced, anyway.

I'm interested. Curious as to your thoughts on how it'll hold up to regular use. Obviously, metal will bend where this will break, but how big of an impact will cause structural damage?

Also, did you consider metal inserts for the hardware mounting points? That may be cost prohibitive and perhaps the CF will be ok in compression under the bolt & washer?
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Oh HELL yeah!

I was just looking at the plate on my 1989 that needs to be restored, or replaced, anyway.

I'm interested. Curious as to your thoughts on how it'll hold up to regular use. Obviously, metal will bend where this will break, but how big of an impact will cause structural damage?

Also, did you consider metal inserts for the hardware mounting points? That may be cost prohibitive and perhaps the CF will be ok in compression under the bolt & washer?
Hi Frank! If that's your "Vents" project, it's an ideal candidate for this part! (EDIT - Read your signature, duh.)

I am 100% certain that once you see and feel this part in your hands you will understand that it has been designed as a protection plate, and is not just a thin plastic replica of one.

Page 3 of my latest build thread does detail some of the design evolution. My first efforts, although much lighter, weren't something I'd put on my own car, or offer to others... I'm particular in that regard.

https://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/1159144-heavy-metal-part-deux-carbon-copy-3.html

It's PLENTY strong. I re-made and revised the layup several times and I have absolutely no reservations about its fitness for the purpose. It will absorb a lot of energy and abuse without bending OR breaking. I've gone as far as hitting it with a 4 pound sledgehammer which bounced off. I've also stepped on it trying to break it without success. Neither test is very scientific I'm afraid

Metal inserts would be possible but sooner or later the force needs to transfer to the composite part so little advantage. The compressive strength of the composite structure is more than capable of handling the loads imparted.

Production versions of the part will include a layer of non-conductive reinforcement on each side of the mounting locations to mitigate galvanic corrosion.

Hope that helps!
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Nicely done, something to consider when updating the underside of the car.
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Very cool, too bad my budget is going other areas right now.
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I'm always looking for unique, one off parts, that are true upgrades from OEM... Kudos, I am in! Will PM you.
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Nicely done, something to consider when updating the underside of the car.
It's certainly the nicest thing on the Rot Rod by a very good margin:





(EDIT - Fixed link. Thanks, lateapex911!)

I wanted to note, perhaps there was concern over the ability of the composite material to withstand the torque of the M10 fasteners, but I did torque all 4 fasteners to 35 ft/lbs and there really is no issue with this, they pull up to torque just as well as you would expect (perhaps better!) than the steel plate.

Also I risked life and limb to shoot some strength demos... if you're unconvinced of the durability of the skid plate these might change your mind. Sorry for the poor quality! Some good comedy, though...

https://youtu.be/GaYvJ5cBijY?feature=shared

https://youtube.com/shorts/zlU4u3t8da8?feature=share

(EDIT - Fixed link, thanks @lateapex911!)
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Amazing....

Just a note- the second link comes up as private.

Kinda bummed, this limited run is bad timing for me.
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I can't afford this but would be interested in a nice take off.
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Just a reminder, guys, beware of scammers approaching you for funds on my behalf. If it smells fishy, it probably is... if you have any doubt, PM me.

Sorry for the bump!
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Jonny this looks fantastic. What is the material thickness at the mounting points?
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I was fortunate to get one of Jonny042’s first examples of this Carbon/Kevlar protection plate. Truly well made, perfect fit, strong, and super light. A great addition to your favourite ride.
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Jonny this looks fantastic. What is the material thickness at the mounting points?
Thanks! It looks great and feels great in the hand, too. I'm certain you'd be impressed.

The mounting points are reinforced with extra layers of cloth, in particular the rear mounts, which are often bent or distorted on the factory steel plates. In addition to the added thickness, the carbon replica is slightly larger in overall dimensions to make the mounting points at the rear more sturdy with a much greater cross sectional area.

There are a total of 9 layers of reinforcement at the rear mounting points, which gives a nominal thickness of 2.7mm, and 6 layers at the other two points (the recessed ones) which gives a nominal thickness of 1.8mm.

The original thickness of the steel protection plate is 1.2mm.

Hope that answers your question!
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Interested in one of those. Looks and sounds great!
Will pm.
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Oh what the heck, count me in. PM the paypal please. Do I get a discount for helping you with the link? hahahaha!

Zip is 06605

I'll PM too
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Thanks guys!!! I'm glad to report that not only did Fedex not lose my entire order of supplies, they finally delivered the Carbon/Kevlar cloth that I've been waiting on forever! Started the "run" of these today, there's one in the oven as we speak!

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Update on production! Doing my best to get these made, 1 per day...









Should be shipping out a quantity of them next week.
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Thanks guys!!! I'm glad to report that not only did Fedex not lose my entire order of supplies, they finally delivered the Carbon/Kevlar cloth that I've been waiting on forever! Started the "run" of these today, there's one in the oven as we speak!

ALL shipping minus UPS has been kind of a nightmare over the past month, lucky it even arrived in all honesty.

Can't wait to see one in person!

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