California blue license plates

[Prsh356]

Dmv clear California plates 75.00 /pair + Rusnak metal license plate fillers 50.00/pair.

[Prsh356]

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[targa44]

Would you know what year they were issued? I'm thinking the car and plates need to match the years? - no?

[RNajarian]

Originally Posted by targa44

Would you know what year they were issued? I'm thinking the car and plates need to match the years? - no?

California started issuing these Blue plates with Yellow letters in 1969. They started with 000 AAA in 1969 and ended the run in the early 80s when they completed the 999 ZZZ plate. They started doing one number three letters then three numbers at that time on blue and yellow plates (1 AAA 000). Currently we are on the number 7 in that run.

I can confirm that my blue and yellow plate issued in May 1975 was issued AFTER 471 GHL. My plate is 000 MXX. The key letter is M. (The 0s and Xs are there to shield my actual plate number.) Plates manufactured 1975 and before were made of steel. Later plates were stamped out of aluminum.

So based on the light surface rust and the letter "G" I would guess this plate was first issued in 1974 or 1973.

Hope this helps.

[bugstrider]

Originally Posted by targa44

Would you know what year they were issued? I'm thinking the car and plates need to match the years? - no?

Per CA's Year of Mfg, {YOM) program, you can re-register the color series to any Year of production model. How that is done is by attaching the vehicle's Year (DMV Reg tab) to the plate to reassign it to that year. When the application is pushed through and DMV approves the request, assuming the plates are in fact "clear". Then DMV will send the new paperwork assigning that plate to the year if the car. They will also send two "tabs" that the current month and Year tabs get attached. Thus, displaying the vintage Year tab on the reassigned plate.

In case you are wondering how I know this and not just spewing smoke, I have done this two two 1968 912's and my fathers 1927 Model-T. The hardest part is to find a usable set of plates. My experience with my dad's 27 T was that the first set of original plates was that the number sequence was reassigned to a San Leandro School District maintenance truck. I hope this helps. I wrote up a big long thread on this in the 912Registry. I can attach a link if there is interest.

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[Milesaway]

I thought YOM was only for black plates, when did they start allowing blue?

[RW911SC]

In California Sb-1429 was passed and i believe as it reads the plates must have stickers which correspond with yhe year of manufacture and the actual plate numbers must also correspond with the same time frame of year of manufacture of the vehicle......Here is the link to the current SB-1429 regulation.

Today's Law As Amended

[bugstrider]

As long as the year of the vehicle falls in the year of the license plate series, then your good to re-register those plates to the vehicle in question. Once again, as long as that vehicle was manufactured during the years that license plate series was produced for vehicle assignment. For example when I re-registered the black and yellow plates back onto our 1968 912's, the plates that were used were not from a 1968 vehicle, one set of the plates came off of a 1969 " house car" by definition. The plates that were used in the series and years that the black and yellow plates were issued in CA at the time. By affixing an original DMV "1968" year tab on the intended black and yellow license plate, you are affectively re-assigning that plate to the 1968 year vehicle.

Black and yellow was issued to vehicles from 1963 to 1969

Blue and yellow were issued to vehicles from 1969 to 1985-1986 and so on.

The same goes for other years prior to that. Thats the main reason I used this program to re-assign proper 1927 license plates to my fathers 27 T project. The modern CA license plates just did not look proper on it. He now has ratty looking original plates back on the car. It now looks right..... more authentic.

The CA YOM process can take a lot of time considering all of the steps one has to complete. Most people do not want to take the time or have the patients it demands. It can and sometimes includes levels of frustration on an inconceivable level especially dealing with DMV at the local level all the way to the Sacramento main office. Especially since most DMV employees have no idea how to process the application without help from the managers. My local branch manager kept a copy of my paperwork to use as a training aid for her staff. On the flip side, I know members that had painless experiences pushing the request through which is very good to hear. It was night and day between my first experience (nightmare) compared with my third (silky smooth). It really comes down to understanding the process and asking yourself is it worth the effort to see those correct plates back on a classic......

Yes, without a doubt, 100% IMHO.



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[Avanti]

Originally Posted by bugstrider

The same goes for other years prior to that. Thats the main reason I used this program to re-assign proper 1927 license plates to my fathers 27 T project. The modern CA license plates just did not look proper on it. He now has ratty looking original plates back on the car. It now looks right..... more authentic.

It really comes down to understanding the process and asking yourself is it worth the effort to see those correct plates back on a classic......

Yes, without a doubt, 100%

Great information that clears up confusion for many.

Know what you mean about original CA black plates looking "right" on an old car.

That said, the new issue black CA plates that anyone can order today just look wrong to me on a modern car. Just as wrong as the white CA plates on an old car.

Paul

[Prsh356]

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[bugstrider]

Re-bump for a good set of CA plates for a 70's era classic.


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[914magazine]

I would like to purchase these plates, please

[Prsh356]

Still 4 sale !

[blink997]

[QUOTE=bugstrider;9409120]As long as the year of the vehicle falls in the year of the license plate series, then your good to re-register those plates to the vehicle in question. Once again, as long as that vehicle was manufactured during the years that license plate series was produced for vehicle assignment. For example when I re-registered the black and yellow plates back onto our 1968 912's, the plates that were used were not from a 1968 vehicle, one set of the plates came off of a 1969 " house car" by definition. The plates that were used in the series and years that the black and yellow plates were issued in CA at the time. By affixing an original DMV "1968" year tab on the intended black and yellow license plate, you are affectively re-assigning that plate to the 1968 year vehicle.

Black and yellow was issued to vehicles from 1963 to 1969

Blue and yellow were issued to vehicles from 1969 to 1985-1986 and so on.

The same goes for other years prior to that. Thats the main reason I used this program to re-assign proper 1927 license plates to my fathers 27 T project. The modern CA license plates just did not look proper on it. He now has ratty looking original plates back on the car. It now looks right..... more authentic.

The CA YOM process can take a lot of time considering all of the steps one has to complete. Most people do not want to take the time or have the patients it demands. It can and sometimes includes levels of frustration on an inconceivable level especially dealing with DMV at the local level all the way to the Sacramento main office. Especially since most DMV employees have no idea how to process the application without help from the managers. My local branch manager kept a copy of my paperwork to use as a training aid for her staff. On the flip side, I know members that had painless experiences pushing the request through which is very good to hear. It was night and day between my first experience (nightmare) compared with my third (silky smooth). It really comes down to understanding the process and asking yourself is it worth the effort to see those correct plates back on a classic......

Yes, without a doubt, 100% IMHO.

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Thanks for your post about the classic plates. My car is a 1970, I am seeing some conflicting information about the plates -

The post below (see link) says you MUST find plates with the validation sticker that corresponds to the year of your car however your post says "As long as the year of the vehicle falls in the year of the license plate series, then your good to re-register those plates to the vehicle in question." Could you pls clarify?

"One must find a set of plates that has the year sticker of their car on them. If you bring a plate to DMV that was pressed in your year, but it has an earlier or later sticker on it - no go."

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/929621-put-california-blue-plate-your-70s-911-a.html


So Validation sticker required that matches YOM of your car?? Super hard to find plates with corresponding validation sticker..

Thanks

[bugstrider]

[QUOTE=blink997;9459365]

Originally Posted by bugstrider

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Thanks for your post about the classic plates. My car is a 1970, I am seeing some conflicting information about the plates -

The post below (see link) says you MUST find plates with the validation sticker that corresponds to the year of your car however your post says "As long as the year of the vehicle falls in the year of the license plate series, then your good to re-register those plates to the vehicle in question." Could you pls clarify?

"One must find a set of plates that has the year sticker of their car on them. If you bring a plate to DMV that was pressed in your year, but it has an earlier or later sticker on it - no go."

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/929621-put-california-blue-plate-your-70s-911-a.html


So Validation sticker required that matches YOM of your car?? Super hard to find plates with corresponding validation sticker..

Thanks

Yeah, you bet...

Just think of the CA YOM plate program as a three phase process:

P-1:
Find a usable set of clean license plates for your car. The plates can be if any sequence as long as your car falls within the years the license plates were produced. The only time it might get tricky is if you happen to have a car manufactured at the end of one series and the beginning of another.

For example, the end year run of black and yellow plates and the beginning of the blue and gold plates. Depending on when the car was manufactured per the VIN#.

P-2:
Once you have acquired a good clean set of plates for your particular car, Then you must locate an original year "sticker" of your car. Once you do that, you attach the original year sticker to the plate. Once this is done and it's "permanently" attached to the plate, then CA DMV views that license plate belonging to the year of your car.

I'm working with a photocopy of my plate so bare with me.

Plate with the corresponding vehicle year tab attached.


P-3:
Is the most arduous of the three phases. I say this because this is where the paperwork begins. Applications, copies and of course, DMV fees. Now you may be wondering what happens to that rare "year" sticker that you located from some collector and attached it to the license plates you also bought. When DMV assigns the plate to your car and sends you the paperwork supporting that, they will also send you two little metal tabs. It is these tabs that you also attach to the top securement screws holding your license plate on the car. It is these little tabs that you then attaché the current month and year stickers of your vehicles "current" registration. Hence, always displaying your vehicles rare year tab permanently displayed on your re-assigned plate.



Attached to your vehicle with the exception the attachment points of the meta tabs will be behind your license plate.


I hope this helps un-muddy the waters.
Just remember, find a good usable set of license plates. Then find a good usable year sticker that corresponds to the year of your vehicle. Attach the year sticker to the plate and your in business to start the process.

Hopefully this will link you over to a thread I did on the 912Regisrty.

California DMV Y.O.M. Vintage Linense Plate Application


The link is being a butt, so pop on over to the 912BBS for the full version. My username is JT68912. Tried to get both forums to align the usernames but there is issues per the administrators on the sites.

If you have any further questions, shoot me a PM and can give you my cell number and I'll talk to you in person if you want.

I literally just "boosted" these photos from another post today. The reason is it is another example of a CA car having period correct plates assigned.

[blink997]

Thanks much!

[bugstrider]

A quick note to the OP:

I apologize that this hijacked your "for sale add" I just hope that this in depth explanation of the CA YOM program will give confidence to a potential buyer that he/she can successfully buy your plates and reassign them to their car.

Cheers and a friendly bump for a good usable set of CA plates for a vintage car.




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