bmw m3 e36 vs 944s2

[911ballin]

Hi I was talking to friend "bemmer GU,"he said the m3 e36 95-98 beat t%#$% OUT OF 944S2 968 all day long!!! I was wondering is that is true , witch car will be faster 0-60 will the s2 fatter after 4 gear ??? better in track ?

[Fred-T]

I am pretty sure that the M3 will be faster than the 944 S2. I think that the M3 take 5.6sec 0-60 where a 944 will take around 6.7sec. do not forget that the M3 has a 6cyl. it will be very tough for the 944 to get close to it, especially with the difference in torque. I am sure that some people on here will have a great knowledge of those 2 cars.

[ewalt98]

Originally Posted by 944 Ecology

Yes, it will fatter.

Funny...

I bet a little youtube search could bring up a comparison video from the past. I would do it myself, but I can't from work.

Personally, I don't see the BMW being much faster on the track as a 944s, if at all.

From the limited seat time I've had, the M3 from the 80s were more stiffly sprung than the 944, and maybe not as sophisticated suspension wise.

[Fred-T]

Originally Posted by ewalt98

Funny...

I bet a little youtube search could bring up a comparison video from the past. I would do it myself, but I can't from work.

Personally, I don't see the BMW being much faster on the track as a 944s, if at all.

From the limited seat time I've had, the M3 from the 80s were more stiffly sprung than the 944, and maybe not as sophisticated suspension wise.

yes but the E36 is not an 80s car.

have a look over here for both cars head to head:

Porsche 944 S2 vs BMW M3 3.0 -> Duel 967620

[962porsche]

in what way i have had both cars in full race trim . they turn the same lap times ! 102's at lime rock and 116's at nhms . the 968 has better brakes and turn in along with just a little more top speed . the bmw is better after apex and track out with better drive off the corner . with the cars balanced on scales to a 50/50 weight they both feal very well balanced . i liked the 968 on longer tracks were i found the m3 to be better on shorter tracks . in the full wet the 968 is better . but on a drying track with intermediate tires the bmw is better. so is one better than the other in no way is one better !!! now let me say this ! its the most dumb ass thing when people get into a debate about what car is better ! all cars have good and bad things about them . and in the class they run in they are both mid pack cars .

[ewalt98]

Originally Posted by Fred-T

yes but the E36 is not an 80s car.

Guess I was thinking of the E30 (I tend to stick with the 60's and 70's BMWs....)

[911ballin]

so the m3 is probably com pare to 944turbo?????
I was thinking m3 are over steeter cars was massive weght at front??
so there is not hope stock s2 can campare to stock m3 1996?

[HondaDustR]

so the m3 is probably com pare to 944turbo?????

Huh?

[962porsche]

the m3 under steers not over steers . with the weight on the nose . but they are a good balanced car out of the box as is the 968 . but they both under steer untill you set them up for track use . the 968 and the 944 turbo run in the same class along with the m3 . they class the cars to power to weight . becouse the turbo 944 and the 968 are just about the same power to weight the m3 will compare to eather one . the 968 base hp is 236 weight is 3000 lbs the 944 turbo base hp is 226 at 2800 lbs then the last 2 years of the turbo the weight went up to 2987 lbs and hp went up as well to 247 . but the NA 968 motor has a wider useable power rang than the turbo .

[porsche4life]

I have driven an E36 M a few times. and a 944 turbo. Stock for stock? I think the M would edge out the turbo barely. Its power is consistent, no turbo lag. They M is ~240Hp factory but a wee bit heavier. They really are a pretty fair match, unless you need to haul 4 ppl... Then the M beats the **** out of the 951....

[962porsche]

the m3 is 3200 lbs with 240 hp . i forgot to put that in in my last reply .

[911ballin]

SO If we get s2 add chip, lightweight pulleys, cool intake, cat back dealet and delete rear seat and remove spare tire and havy rear carpet, it can match the stock 240hp m3 cause the m3 is gona be heavier car?? any hope there !for s2!!! match his 0-60 and as fact in a track!

[porsche4life]

But if you get to make all those mods.... What mods does the M get?

[911ballin]

real world real number stock m3 !!!!! can be match for s2 some tricks??
YouTube - 1997 BMW M3 stock Dyno

[911ballin]

here real s2
YouTube - 944S2 Dyno 2005

[Fred-T]

in Europe the e36 does 286hp and 320hp for the 3.2.

here we go, perf against 968:

Porsche 968 CS vs BMW M3 3.0 -> Duel 637620

[Arizona_928]

Originally Posted by porsche4life

But if you get to make all those mods.... What mods does the M get?

A pat on the back, and the 6......

[porsche4life]

V6? WTF are you talking about... BMW uses a straight 6.... A very mod friendly straight 6....

[Arizona_928]

lol my bad.. my head is else ware

[J1NX3D]

realistically, you could mod the hell out of your S2 and still lose to the M3 if you're not a good driver.