"p car" is far more irritating

Packard?
Plymouth?
Pontiac?
Panoz?
Peerless?
Peel?

I think this weekend I'll take my B car to the G store and swing by the C wash on the way back to my H.

I found the R-spot, but I was preceded by Deez and the Raw who got there before me. At least I was in the front line! Marvelous!

This is who I picture as the seller.

"Hello? I'm calling about the 911 for sale"
Yes, the G50 911 has not been sold yet.

How many miles?
It has 80k G50 miles

Why are you selling it?
I don't G50 use it G50 much anymore G50

Ah, I understand now...good insight..lol

G envy

Some people are just miserable all the time.

My 85 911 with 915 with impact bumpers is in the shop!

I call it Eyore Syndrome.

you know the PRC spec911 class changed the rules to allow the G50 car after much debate over a couple season before relenting in like 2011 or 12 allowing them to participate. had to be a 3.2 G50 car.


the class participants ultimately decided the additional weight of shug's beloved G50 box equaled out the better shifting of shug's beloved G50 box with our old 915 boxes.


in all seriousness there were also concerns by some of us 915 equipped car participants that shug's beloved G50 would hold up longer than the 2 season we'd see out of 915 syncros and DT creating a cost advantage.

shame shug won't see this as last he yelled at me via PM was I was headed to ignore island....

silly, silly shug

2 years? I’m not naming names but a few of the pay to play racers in that series rebuild twice a season.

Ha ha - fookin hilarios, bro! :D

I was every two with the last couple weekends the second year being sketchy at best. I would drop the motor, take the gearbox to the shop, disassemble it under the watchful eye of now retired bob grigsby, do all the cleaning for his reassembly and reinstall it myself and I was still rolling my change to raise the money...:(


spoke with one of my buddies who still races in the series a couple weeks ago and now that they've moved to hooiser for the class the guys you reference are new set every weekend guys. at least with the RA-1 a couple sets if on a budget could last you a whole season with the many heat cycles they would endure. im being told the hoo-hoo's are pretty much a single weekend tire as much past 7-8 heat cycles they fall off drastically.

I look back on the years I spent building and racing my car with much fondness, but the money it took to even remain the least bit competitive was far beyond what I could justify in the end. all ive got now is hours of race videos and memories... I do miss the people I raced with, but many of the grassroot "privateers" that I shared paddock space with have left for much the same reason I did. and I never could bring myself to go racing a miata.;)

G-zuz....

That's because you are NOT a girly man!

Can I have my 2 minutes of waisted time back LOL

I see now... the problem is right there in your signature... 86 3.2 911 coupe... is not a G50. Seems like a case of G50 envy to me ;)

"I want to punch Sugarwood every time I read one of his ridiculous threads" would be a good thread title.

LOL, I've updated my signature.

And no G50 envy here.
I'll quote my old 915 post:


A correctly adjusted and serviced 915 is a perfectly good gearbox. It was in production for the better part of 2 decades. It is not defective. It was not recalled. It was not subject to lemon laws. Contrary to internet folklore, remarkably, it actually does shifts the gears. Go figure! Are you going to be shifting with lighting precision where every 1/10 second counts? No, you are not. If you were, you wouldn't be looking at a 30 year old car in the first place, and you'd be driving a modern car with triple the horsepower and PDK, like the pros. If you get a 915 and it's worn out or needing adjustment, just get that fixed. Reliability of the G50 vs 915? The bottom line is that if either gearbox needs service, you're looking at thousands to get it fixed.

If you can operate a clutch, you can drive a 915. Period. Sure, it might take a minute to adjust to the heavier pedal and looser throw, but it's just a gearbox, not some arcane medieval abacus contraption that people can't operate without an long apprenticeship and flight training. The internet anti-hype surrounding the 915 borders on ludicrous. I don't have to pause between gears when shifting my 915 gearbox. I just shift. I can also shift into 1st while rolling to a stop. Unless a pre-G50 tranny is defective or badly in need or service, anyone can drive it.

Here is a premise worth considering. Some buyers say they are used to a modern Honda gearbox, and that's why they prefer to find a G50. I'll suggest that the entire point of getting an air cooled 911 (and paying top dollar for the privilege) is to have a vintage "leather goggles" driving experience. No power steering. Suspension firmness opposite of "floaty sofa". Mechanical clutch. No nanny assist or stereo or DVD player or Navigation. An exhaust rumble. Even an oil dipstick! The very point of buying an old 911 is that it's nothing like your modern convenient Honda, and that it's different. In that regard, a 915 gearbox is more authentically vintage than a G50 anyway. The guy that wants a modern gearbox probably would not be happy in a 30 year old car in the first place, and might prefer a 997, right?

you're likely closest to him in NY and im sure we could put together a go fund me page for fuel & such for your trip up to see him. id contribute handsomely to that cause.

until then lets play a little game with a worst topic starter list. besides shug a couple to mind currently from the 911 tech section.


* any 3rd person poster ever. wareaglescott is a worst case offender...

* Geronimo from Michigan only asks questions that have been asked & answered 20x before.



what you got?