993s values declining even further?

[Vaive]

6 hours to go in this auction and only 10 comments. Usually there are 10 comments the first hour with these things.

I know, Cab. But still...

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1995-porsche-911-carrera-cabriolet-30/

[nathanbs]

Looking like a Pcar market auction

[trader220]

Originally Posted by Vaive

6 hours to go in this auction and only 10 comments. Usually there are 10 comments the first hour with these things.

I know, Cab. But still...

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1995-porsche-911-carrera-cabriolet-30/

Its a cab, they dont sell well. The wheels kill the car too. Sure they're easily changed but it wont bring in a lot of lookers and comments since the car doesn't show well.

[1979-930]

Originally Posted by trader220

Its a cab, they dont sell well. The wheels kill the car too. Sure they're easily changed but it wont bring in a lot of lookers and comments since the car doesn't show well.

I probably wouldn't own a Cab if it were free.
I have one convertible car now because I thought I would like it. I don't. Only reason it's not sold is I'm giving it to my son for his first car.

[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by 1979-930

I probably wouldn't own a Cab if it were free.
I have one convertible car now because I thought I would like it. I don't. Only reason it's not sold is I'm giving it to my son for his first car.

You really need to try a targa. I was talking to some guy about selling mine, so I jumped it and took it for a cruise Saturday afternoon. It really is the most fantastic convertible design ever. The lack of wind buffeting while still being open to the sky is just wonderful.

[nathanbs]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

You really need to try a targa. I was talking to some guy about selling mine, so I jumped it and took it for a cruise Saturday afternoon. It really is the most fantastic convertible design ever. The lack of wind buffering while still being open to the sky is just wonderful.

if you're not tracking and just touring a targa is the way to go. They will have their moment here shortly in my opinion

[1979-930]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

You really need to try a targa. I was talking to some guy about selling mine, so I jumped it and took it for a cruise Saturday afternoon. It really is the most fantastic convertible design ever. The lack of wind buffering while still being open to the sky is just wonderful.

I would probably like a targa. I like the look and added brightwork. I don't need or want another hot rod.
I actually don't want any of my projects right now. My son's racing is burning me out. Next stop Supernats in Vegas

[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by 1979-930

I would probably like a targa. I like the look and added brightwork. I don't need or want another hot rod.
I actually don't want any of my projects right now. My son's racing is burning me out. Next stop Supernats in Vegas

I hear you. I have lost my project mojo too, but because of my health. If someone showed up with cash and a trailer today they could have my coupe. Saturday reminded me how much I just like to go for a drive. Ever since I sold the Boxster I haven’t done enough of that.

I’ve been to skusa in Vegas. It’s fun.

[G450X]

Originally Posted by 1979-930

I probably wouldn't own a Cab if it were free.
I have one convertible car now because I thought I would like it. I don't. Only reason it's not sold is I'm giving it to my son for his first car.

I am thinking about a convertible (964/993 or a S54 M Roadster due to prices) as a week end “explorer/cruiser” weekend trip car with my wife after I retire.

Please explain your dislikes of owning a cab (in a stable of a few cars). I have a few quick coupes (911SC, e46 M3) for fast fun.

Should I just keep my old Scout for top down exploring (10 mpg yikes) and keep saving for a GT3?

On topic - please ditch those rims and source the relatively inexpensive stock rims (and it should sell).

[touringteg]

Exactly what you are talking about above is why some have moved on from older cars. People are strapped for time and there are less people that want to work on older cars or spend time on a project. Older cars tend to need more TLC.

If you want more performance, want to track, or want modern tech you have to go newer. That is one of the reasons I sold my 993 C4S rather than dump money into it to try to make it faster at the track.

I agree the 997 is an excellent modern replacement for the 993. I've driven a few 997 S and enjoyed every minute. Unfortunately IMS and bore scoring is enough to make one think twice. The 997 Mezger TT/GT3 commands a high price are not accessible for most.

Ideally I would like a GT4, 997 GT3 or 991 GT3. The GT car market continues to slowly slide.

[Vaive]

Originally Posted by G450X

I am thinking about a convertible (964/993 or a S54 M Roadster due to prices) as a week end “explorer/cruiser” weekend trip car with my wife after I retire.

Please explain your dislikes of owning a cab (.

I'll give you my take on convertibles in general. The weather is never good for one. It's always too hot or too cold. At least that was my experience in the 2.5 years I owned one. It's gotta be like 65 to enjoy it. Below that, you're freezing, above that, you're baking in the sun.

And when the top is up, it's loud as hell and also much less safe.

That's just me.

[pmax]

Originally Posted by touringteg

Exactly what you are talking about above is why some have moved on from older cars. People are strapped for time and there are less people that want to work on older cars or spend time on a project. Older cars tend to need more TLC.

Doesn't that depend on whether people treat the project as a hobby ? Needing some DIY TLC is a plus. Bringing a newer car to the shop for all the misc service required by the more complex machinery and electronics not amenable to a DIY is not. There are also many dropping ten of thousands at a "restoration" shop who must be enjoying the entire process, the difference being it's a choice rather than necessity. Perhaps the 993 is currently in transition between the two.

Still not getting the "sky is falling" OP, Kansas.

[robertmark]

Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo

You must not have known too many poor people - I have and the majority do no such thing.

Congrats, you obviously know more more people than I do!!

[McLovin]

Originally Posted by trader220

Nervous? If you buy a nice driver quality 996 and pay low $20's what's there to be nervous about? You're not going to wake up one day anytime soon and find out its a $10k car.

Haha, there's lots of 996 owners that wake up one day, turn the key, and find out their $23K 996 is suddenly a $10K car.

[Vaive]

Originally Posted by McLovin

Haha, there's lots of 996 owners that wake up one day, turn the key, and find out their $23K 996 is suddenly a $10K car.

Which could be easily alleviated by spending $2500 to do the IMS upgrade. I will never understand people who own 996s and don't do this.

[pmax]

WTH is going on ?

https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/1995-porsche-911/

[hda]

Originally Posted by pmax

WTH is going on ?

https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/1995-porsche-911/

Maybe he thought it was a Farari hence bid too high?

[trader220]

Originally Posted by McLovin

Haha, there's lots of 996 owners that wake up one day, turn the key, and find out their $23K 996 is suddenly a $10K car.

Only if you're foolish enough not to take corrective steps.

[G450X]

Originally Posted by pmax

WTH is going on ?

https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/1995-porsche-911/

Seems fair, it appears to have no suspension (younger term slammed?) and it’s red.

[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by Vaive

Which could be easily alleviated by spending $2500 to do the IMS upgrade. I will never understand people who own 996s and don't do this.

Because the actual failure rate is less than 5%. It’s somwthing one should do when doing the clutch but not something that everyone should just rush out and do.