Cheap 930

[matt930s]

I say drop in a 912 motor.

1979 Porsche 930 Turbo Coupe 2-Door | eBay

[Rawknees'Turbo]

Originally Posted by matt930s

I say drop in a 912 motor.

Which one - the Porsche Classic catalog shows many engine options for the 912?!?!

[93097004xx]

Really is amazing the attrition rate for 930s

I means it's extremely high for a Porsche.

I'm guessing the cost of maintenance was part of the reason.

The other was how many cars were gutted and turned in to track dogs.

They were simply neglected, gutted into track dogs or left to rust away.

[Skwerl]

Also because they were never all that special until about 2013 when suddenly everyone agreed at the same time that they were legendary icons they had secretly always dreamed of owning.

[matt930s]

Bidding is pretty active...

(The interior is gutted, but still has the "car phone" cradle..lol..)

Matt

[Skillet83]

Originally Posted by Skwerl

Also because they were never all that special until about 2013 when suddenly everyone agreed at the same time that they were legendary icons they had secretly always dreamed of owning.

Screw, Squirell, whatever your name is, it is a idiotic statement to say a 930 or turbo car was never all that special from that era. Yes I own one and do not think it is the Holy Grail of cars. C'mon, this site has a forum dedicated to them, hundreds of articles over the years. It was the super car of the day, a very iconic car.

Price wise, like all P cars of that era, had a serious run up, but things seemed to have leveled back down, and quiet a bit higher than where that run up started. Nice old school turbos will always be special. "never all that special" Tool.

[LakeCleElum]

So, that's the RARE 930 2-door Coupe? As opposed to the very rare 4-door Coupe?

[93097004xx]

Originally Posted by Skillet83

Screw, Squirell, whatever your name is, it is a idiotic statement to say a 930 or turbo car was never all that special from that era. Yes I own one and do not think it is the Holy Grail of cars. C'mon, this site has a forum dedicated to them, hundreds of articles over the years. It was the super car of the day, a very iconic car.



Price wise, like all P cars of that era, had a serious run up, but things seemed to have leveled back down, and quiet a bit higher than where that run up started. Nice old school turbos will always be special. "never all that special" Tool.

He's pissed because he cannot have a back yard full of air cooled 911s in various conditions of disrepair.

Seems most people that complain about air cooled 911s much late but rightful rise in value are those who serial hoard all things air cooled.


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[93097004xx]

Originally Posted by Skillet83

Screw, Squirell, whatever your name is, it is a idiotic statement to say a 930 or turbo car was never all that special from that era. Yes I own one and do not think it is the Holy Grail of cars. C'mon, this site has a forum dedicated to them, hundreds of articles over the years. It was the super car of the day, a very iconic car.



Price wise, like all P cars of that era, had a serious run up, but things seemed to have leveled back down, and quiet a bit higher than where that run up started. Nice old school turbos will always be special. "never all that special" Tool.

Not saying you aren't right about pricing leveling off. They needed to after a 300% increase.

But on eBay prices are higher than ever.


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[Skwerl]

Originally Posted by Skillet83

Screw, Squirell, whatever your name is, it is a idiotic statement to say a 930 or turbo car was never all that special from that era. Yes I own one and do not think it is the Holy Grail of cars. C'mon, this site has a forum dedicated to them, hundreds of articles over the years. It was the super car of the day, a very iconic car.

Price wise, like all P cars of that era, had a serious run up, but things seemed to have leveled back down, and quiet a bit higher than where that run up started. Nice old school turbos will always be special. "never all that special" Tool.

Sklet, or Skirt, or whatever your name is, I was being facetious, but they were clearly not perceived as must-have collector icons just evidenced by their pricing alone. Why are all these collectors paying $150k+ for one now (or at least in 2015) and not the fraction of that required before 2013? Hint: the demand wasn't there. Air-cooleds have only recently graduated from being clunky souped-up VWs in the eyes of snotty collectors. But go ahead and try to pretend that collector car guys are immune to trends and herd psychology.


And the less said about 930xx's hilarious market "insight" the better.

And for the record I have virtually no interest in owning a 930.

[turbo owner]

$15k for the CHEAP 930

[turbo owner]

Originally Posted by Skwerl

Sklet, or Skirt, or whatever your name is, I was being facetious, but they were clearly not perceived as must-have collector icons just evidenced by their pricing alone. Why are all these collectors paying $150k+ for one now (or at least in 2015) and not the fraction of that required before 2013? Air-cooleds have only recently graduated from being clunky souped-up VWs in the eyes of snotty collectors. But go ahead and try to pretend that collector car guys are immune to trends and herd psychology.


And the less said about 930xx's hilarious market "insight" the better.

And for the record I have virtually no interest in owning a 930.

You sure do spend a lot of time obsessing about a car you say you have no desire of owning.

[Skwerl]

Your definition of "obsessing" is funny.

I'm much more interested in 964 Turbos and 993TTs, if you want to try again with an ineffectual burn on that topic.

[Skillet83]

Originally Posted by Skwerl

Sklet, or Skirt, or whatever your name is, I was being facetious, but they were clearly not perceived as must-have collector icons just evidenced by their pricing alone. Why are all these collectors paying $150k+ for one now (or at least in 2015) and not the fraction of that required before 2013? Hint: the demand wasn't there. Air-cooleds have only recently graduated from being clunky souped-up VWs in the eyes of snotty collectors. But go ahead and try to pretend that collector car guys are immune to trends and herd psychology.


And the less said about 930xx's hilarious market "insight" the better.

And for the record I have virtually no interest in owning a 930.

Squirrel, I remember not too many years ago you could purchase a really nice driver turbo for 25k-30K. When I purchased my current turbo, it was at the beginning of the blast off. I got in at nearly double what I had originally planned. At the peak, there were some low 6 figure cars for sale. I think you may be off regarding all these collectors and $150k cars. Just did not see it. Sure, there were some time machines that sold.

Just my opinion, I think the nice drivers have settled into a 70K-85K range. quiet a nice range. It really comes down to what someone wants and are willing to pay. I am all for capitalism and profit, but believe some of these unscrupulous flippers and dealers ran the price up on these cars and let greed take over. I would like to believe there is quiet a few 930's sitting because they were purchased too high.

[turbo owner]

Originally Posted by Skwerl

Your definition of "obsessing" is funny.

I'm much more interested in 964 Turbos and 993TTs, if you want to try again with an ineffectual burn on that topic.

How many 964 and 993tt do you own, not counting R/C, die cast and matchbox cars?

My definition of obsessing = you are a Effn troll, got that squirrel?

[Skwerl]

Originally Posted by Skillet83

Squirrel, I remember not too many years ago you could purchase a really nice driver turbo for 25k-30K. When I purchased my current turbo, it was at the beginning of the blast off. I got in at nearly double what I had originally planned. At the peak, there were some low 6 figure cars for sale. I think you may be off regarding all these collectors and $150k cars. Just did not see it. Sure, there were some time machines that sold.

There were definitely 930s going for $150k+ at auction at the peak.

And the fact that many sold for $30k not all that long ago is exactly the point I was making - name another highly regarded legend and icon, sought after and respected by collectors around the world, that regularly sells for $30k. And that's not even counting other aircooleds that practically went for pennies. The reason? My apparently *highly* controversial hot-take is that it's because demand was lower. Today's (and 2015's) higher prices are due to new demand from the moneyed collector set, which materialized quickly and IMO was fueled by evolving groupthink.

And turbo owner, your conniption over some nobody on an inconsequential enthusiast forum having a different opinion from you sure says a lot.

[matt930s]

Did ya'll miss the part about "drop a 912 motor in"?

Lighten up gents...

MattR

[Rawknees'Turbo]

Originally Posted by matt930s

Did ya'll miss the part about "drop a 912 motor in"?


MattR

I never miss a 912 related comment!

[93097004xx]

Originally Posted by Skwerl

There were definitely 930s going for $150k+ at auction at the peak.



And the fact that many sold for $30k not all that long ago is exactly the point I was making - name another highly regarded legend and icon, sought after and respected by collectors around the world, that regularly sells for $30k. And that's not even counting other aircooleds that practically went for pennies. The reason? My apparently *highly* controversial hot-take is that it's because demand was lower. Today's (and 2015's) higher prices are due to new demand from the moneyed collector set, which materialized quickly and IMO was fueled by evolving groupthink.



And turbo owner, your conniption over some nobody on an inconsequential enthusiast forum having a different opinion from you sure says a lot.

Two different things a play here, Two different markets.

For NA 911s/S/SC/Carrera
I think it's as simple as these air cooled 911s are the finest, purest, aesthetically perfect, porsche that will ever be.

For the 930
I think the 930 were always going to become highly collectible due to that fact they were elite status in the supercar world.

The original group included ( poster cars )

Lamborghini Countach
Ferrari 512 bbi
De Thomaso Pantera

And later included the Testarossa.

The 930 could out accelerate them all and nearly as high top speed.

I think this original group of super cars are league to themselves.

[Rawknees'Turbo]

^^^

And just think, they are much better cars when performance modified - chock full of suck in stock trim! Hard to believe some people foolishly pay more for lesser, stock examples - straight up dumba, right there!