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Fender Flairs on an Early Car, bad idea?
When it comes to resale value is it a bad idea to add flairs to an early car?
Yes the RSR and RS replicas draw big money, I'm not talking about that type of car. If you have a bone stock numbers matching early 911 not pristine but in driver condition would you take a hit when selling if adding flairs?
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id say no. as you describe the car it could be worth a ton as it sits if you are intent on selling it.
we've all been made very aware recently flares on an early car are a case of the beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. i know you like to play your cards close to the vest, but any pictures of the specimen in question?
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I would say it would typically be detrimental to an all original cars value
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I personally like the look of the narrow bodied cars. I would not do flares on an original car. There are way too narrow bodied cars that have had that modification. I would think the rarity alone of a narrow body would probably add to your car's valuation when you go to sell.
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Very bad idea
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If it’s all numbers matching,I would avoid doing it.
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If you do it, make sure to take many pictures of the metal work (in bare metal stage)
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Got enough flare to me...
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Thing is that this car has been recently mechanically refreshed, the engine trans and suspension rebuilt, interior is new but the body left untouched. It sat for a lot of years and the paint is a mess. The right rear fender was backed into some decades ago and not repaired properly so it needs work. I figure if body work is required then what a great opportunity to get some nice flairs on there. I'll be keeping this car for a while as it was purchased for exhaust system R&D, lots of guys putting big engines in these cars now that need to squeeze in a proper exhaust system in a tight space. The tinker bug is always alive so I have to resist that when prudent to do so. My first thought was to leave it exactly how it is, the rat rod look. Now the bug is creeping in making me think about fenders and paint. Probably stupid to spend any money on it at but you all know how that goes, ha!
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Hell ****in yes, Brian. If you’re not familiar, look up what Jack Olsen did with his 911. He is having the time of his life with it, and I’d argue the fares are 90% of it lol.
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So will you be keeping the original engine or ditching it?
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unless you drop in bigger HP, there is no real need for flares.
and every year, there are fewer and fewer narrow bodies as these cars get modified. i say leave it alone...
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Bad idea to flare a narrow body in 2021 unless you found an orphan with no tags. Even then, everyone deserves a chance to be narrow again.
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If it's not some rare original car I say go for it! Nothing is cooler than the silhouette of a Porsche with flares. It doesn't really matter what is under the hood.
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^^ I guess you never drove one of those SWB 912 slant-nose conversions?
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JFC, the word is "flare," not "flair."
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Appreciate all the comments guys, it is very helpful to see the different reasoning behind the opinions.
Yes I corresponded with Jack O here on Pelican back in the mid-90's when he crashed his first black beauty and bought the donor of the current version in Chicago. It is an epic auto, no doubt about it. I will admit I have a flare sickness. I love the look of an air cooled 911 widebody. It's a cosmetic thing not a performance oriented mod, kind of like the M491 Carreras. My very first 911 was a '73MFI with 930 style fenders. I could not give that car away in 1995 and sold it at a loss after a full mechanical restoration. I sold that one to buy a non-sunroof SC coupe which became the Red Rocket, 930 engine and flares. I sold that car in 2010 at a loss to buy a charcoal metallic gray 930 slant. You see the pattern, I need to stop doing mods that lose money (and selling cars right before the market goes up). This car is not desirable due to the color and chassis type which means I have less sweat equity to play with. Yes it is numbers matching and I have all of the stock parts such as the head lights and steering wheel which was replaced with a Momo. Yes I will leave the entire drive train alone as it was just rebuilt last year and runs extremely strong. The plan is to address the paint/body issues. The front bumper has paint missing causing surface rust and the right rear fender has bondo and bubbled paint which also has rusted. The pan/floor/trunk/etc are all solid and rust free, this car has been in the south all of it's life. I assume that fixing the paint will increase the value, the question becomes will adding flares negate any increase gained from fixing the paint on this particular car? Here it is, I have named it Yoohoo.
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Some flares do have flair as well, though... |
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