1984 Porsche 911 Coupe - $16700

[COLB]

No affiliation.

Perusing craigslist and saw this midnight blue, 1984 Carrera Coupe for sale in the DC area at a reasonable price:

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/cto/4330115367.html



Driver quality cosmetics and later turbo twist wheels, but looks like a decent car from the CL low quality pics. Very nice seats, and presentable exterior, but cracked dash and missing some bits. Lots of performance oriented upgrades, including an engine rebuild.

Mileage unlisted due to broken odometer.

Fairly priced for someone who is looking for low risk, entry level car they can drive and sort over time.

[faverymi]

I've seen that car for sale for a really long time. And I thought about making the drive with cash.

Never contacted the seller. I got turned off by the length the car has been on the market.

Perhaps it's a hidden jewel. The last of the warriors, who knows…….

[RacerX1166]

Any time I read 'odometer just stopped working' I tend to run for the hills. How long ago would you define as 'just'? Of course, I didn't see the mileage listed anyway.

This ad also tripped one of my pet peeves which is the need to add adjectives / descriptors such as 'collectible' to describe cars that are neither in great condition nor original. The one that sets me over the top is when folks list 100k mile cars as 'mint' or 'time capsules'. I don't care how well the car has been cared for, it ain't gonna be either of those at 100k miles. Sorry for the rant.

[COLB]

Originally Posted by faverymi

I've seen that car for sale for a really long time. And I thought about making the drive with cash.

Never contacted the seller. I got turned off by the length the car has been on the market.

Perhaps it's a hidden jewel. The last of the warriors, who knows…….

I don't recall seeing this car on craigslist. Where did he have it advertised?

This ad also tripped one of my pet peeves which is the need to add adjectives / descriptors such as 'collectible' to describe cars that are neither in great condition nor original. The one that sets me over the top is when folks list 100k mile cars as 'mint' or 'time capsules'. I don't care how well the car has been cared for, it ain't gonna be either of those at 100k miles. Sorry for the rant.

All of these are classics, but you are right that cars attractive to a real collector are in a completely different league. That being said, this ad is pretty subtle compared to most dealer ads.

He is also pretty straightforward about the condition, and makes no claims about it being "mint" or "glossy". He could make his job easier with better pictures and more details. But if he was a pro at advertising, he'd be asking more money.

The car is definitely rough around the edges. But that is what you get for $15-17k in a 3.2 Carrera coupe, and a rebuilt engine, other nice mechanical upgrades, and clean interior are usually not present on those cars.

Sorting it out the rest will cost money -- but it seems like a good choice if you want a drivable project and can't afford a $25k car.

[CountD]

The wheels do it for me...big turn off, might be for lots of others as well.

[PushingMyLuck]

Originally Posted by CountD

The wheels do it for me...big turn off, might be for lots of others as well.

+1. Anything other than Fuchs looks like a pimped out ricer car to my eyes.

[faverymi]

Originally Posted by COLB

I don't recall seeing this car on craigslist. Where did he have it advertised?.

Craigslist. Early fall. See the pics?

I'm still wondering why hasn't sold. (trash or treasure)

I've been burned a couple of times talking to owners, making offers, driving and just finding pure Junk.

Originally Posted by msort81

I assume every car regardless of glossy pics or shiny paint is a POS until I see otherwise. Just like a recent thread on a 'Lowe Mileage' car at RAC in Tx..

Best line ever.

[COLB]

Originally Posted by CountD

The wheels do it for me...big turn off, might be for lots of others as well.

Sure. But that is the easiest thing to fix on any car.

And unlike most mods, you can actually sell the turbo twists to offset the cost of sourcing genuine Fuchs. If you take your time and have easy access to a big market (i.e., don't have to pay shipping both ways), you can probably swap them out for a net of $500-700.

Like I said, if it was correct and sorted, it would be selling closer to $20k.

[COLB]

Craigslist. Early fall. See the pics?

I'm still wondering why hasn't sold. (trash or treasure)

I've been burned a couple of times talking to owners, making offers, driving and just finding pure Junk.

I know it hasn't been on Craigslist in months, and I check every couple of days. The current ad just popped yesterday.

One possible reason it hasn't sold is that he took it off the market maybe four months ago when it didn't sell in the fall. Coldest, snowiest winter in No. Virginia in years probably isn't helping.

But you are right that it could be a flaky seller, or that the car is much worse than described/depicted.

[PushingMyLuck]

COLB, what's the going rate for a set of average condition Fuchs?

[msort81]

Originally Posted by PushingMyLuck

COLB, what's the going rate for a set of average condition Fuchs?

Lazy as well as really boring ...

[Matt Monson]

COLB, what's the going rate for a set of average condition Fuchs?

What size? Carreras were offered more than one way.

[KNS]

Originally Posted by CountD

The wheels do it for me...big turn off, might be for lots of others as well.

I bought a 993 a while back that had aftermarket wheels, big fiberglass tail and some other non standard mods, all of it reversible. I brought it all back to factory stock and am enjoying the car - I don't think it sold as quickly as it could have because it wasn't stock. Originality sells.

I don't think I could find a 993 for the same price/same condition today.

[DCinVA]

Looks like a fairly nice car to me, but one really never knows until you look.

I live very close and would be happy to take a look if you would like an unbiased opinion.

Dave

[COLB]

Originally Posted by PushingMyLuck

COLB, what's the going rate for a set of average condition Fuchs?

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The irony is, depending on how bad they are curbed and the condition of the tires, the Turbo Twist wheels sell close to the same value as the Fuchs, so long as you are not looking for big sizes or perfect condition. The painted center caps on those are probably worth $90-120 by themselves.