Slant nose conversions with gaudy body work

[puddy]

I keep seeing the odd late 80's 911 cab with ugly ( in my opinion) slant nose conversions and sometimes ugly 80's body kits. Well I see these selling for around $20k and even though I think they're hideous I'm thinking that price isn't too bad for a low mile drive train and g50 trans. Am I crazy? Do people buy slant nose conversion kits? Maybe if pick one up and try to part out body etc and keep the drive train?

[NYNick]

Interesting thought, but the price is way too high IMO.

[copbait73]

If you have the parts to return it to stock appearance and you can do the work yourself it is a good flip or keeper at that price.

[COLB]

Until average cars start breaking $40k, there is no money in undoing slant conversions.

That is why long hood Ts that got the "80s treatment" have only recently started getting converting back.

[puddy]

Thanks guys. I guess if I could find the right roller for sale, it could be any easy motor swap to make a nice car.

[COLB]

Originally Posted by puddy

Thanks guys. I guess if I could find the right roller for sale, it could be any easy motor swap to make a nice car.

The math problem is that a nice roller ($8-10k) + a strong running slant conversion ($18-20k) puts you into decent Carrera money before you even factor in the work required to make the swap.

And what you end up with is a non-matching car worth less than a car you could have bought from jump street.

Maybe you can squeeze a little more money by parting/selling the slant chassis after you have pulled the motor, but slant rollers aren't flying off the shelves -- most of the panels are not desirable, and the interiors are often similarly atrocious.

[ficke]

Originally Posted by COLB

The math problem is that a nice roller ($8-10k) + a strong running slant conversion ($18-20k) puts you into decent Carrera money before you even factor in the work required to make the swap.

And what you end up with is a non-matching car worth less than a car you could have bought from jump street.

Maybe you can squeeze a little more money by parting/selling the slant chassis after you have pulled the motor, but slant rollers aren't flying off the shelves -- most of the panels are not desirable, and the interiors are often similarly atrocious.

Colb, You consistently offer sound, well thought out advice that is hard to add to.

[914agogo]

I have a nicely done all steel 85 cab slantnose converted long ago by Ru$nak in Pasadena and that is about what I need out of it. $20K to break even.
so far many dreamers however a couple of interesting prospects, both wanting to explore returning it to a stock cabriolet since it was not a converted Targa.
I dont see how anyone could come out ahead on this one, although it remains a nice driver for those who like that style.

[914agogo]

not in line with the marque this styling though there was a real Flachbau, I didnt dig it.

[Matt Monson]

Yes, there were a number of real flachbau cabs made. My aunt owns a blue one.

[techweenie]

One of the reasons OE Turbo front fenders are so valuable is that these conversions are reversible.

Certainly you'd want to keep a flachbau, but correcting a typical fiberglass slant conversion is a great way to add value.

[Matt Monson]

How difficult is the rocker reversal on one of these? What does the body look like under there after those are installed?

[techweenie]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

How difficult is the rocker reversal on one of these? What does the body look like under there after those are installed?

In my experience, they are either glassed-on - a mess - or held on with 5-6 sheetmetal screws. That area can be patch painted easily enough.

[Matt Monson]

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-marketplace-discussion/863448-need-help-pricing-74-911-project.html

This '74 interested me, but not being a body guy I was scared by the rockers and vented rear flares. Clearly the flares would need to be handled by a professional, but it sounds like maybe a punter like myself could handle the front end and rockers most of the way.

Something to keep in mind if one of these weirdo cars comes along at the right price...

[techweenie]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-marketplace-discussion/863448-need-help-pricing-74-911-project.html

This '74 interested me, but not being a body guy I was scared by the rockers and vented rear flares. Clearly the flares would need to be handled by a professional, but it sounds like maybe a punter like myself could handle the front end and rockers most of the way.

Something to keep in mind if one of these weirdo cars comes along at the right price...

Real turbo fenders have gotten pricey, but there may be some value in the parts that come off... The black example needed a bunch o parts, but the only biggie was plugging the flare vents. You're talking serious body talent to make those disappear. Especially on a black car!

[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by techweenie

Real turbo fenders have gotten pricey, but there may be some value in the parts that come off... The black example needed a bunch o parts, but the only biggie was plugging the flare vents. You're talking serious body talent to make those disappear. Especially on a black car!

I was interested in going back to the original slim hips and chrome trim, like a proper middie. I assumed the rear flares on that one would be a throw away.

[techweenie]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

I was interested in going back to the original slim hips and chrome trim, like a proper middie. I assumed the rear flares on that one would be a throw away.

That was the context in which I weighed in on that car. The slim hips are hugely expensive as fashion has gone back that way. And Turbo flares alter quarter panels the most of all flares, so you need essentially complete quarters. That's a lot of welding.

[Matt Monson]

Good to know.

[ficke]

This was a 85 with steel body work.
Like so many of these versions it was done because of a accident . When they sourced a rear trailing arm from a junk yard it had a different offset so one wheel stuck out a half inch different than the other one. I sold it for 19K and was glad to get it.con

[ficke]

I do not like these fakey do poser cars. I sold that car about 6 months ago.
I thought about returning it and came to the same conclusion most have, not worth it at this time.