FAQ or summary of all the 911s market segments?

[brammo]

Originally Posted by kwyjibo

hey, congrats on the car - looks good. its soooo nice to read a wtb/value thread that isn't just a drawn out diatribe ala PML, but ends in an actual purchase. keep us posted.
one thing to keep in mind for the stainless bar, if you are going for the earlier middie-look, you may find yourself going down the road to un-blacken/chrome a bunch of the trim pieces.

Thanks for the all the help and this response.

Interestingly enough, the more I look at the car, the more I think trying to make it look earlier may not be the the thing for me. I think my problem is I need an early car with the stainless targa bar and the chrome accents around the turn signal indicators and the thin bumpers.

Maybe I will just work to make this one as clean and stock as possible, which it already is I believe. More on that soon.

That said, I would love to to get that airbox out of the way, but easy to put back to stock, I hate not being able to see the intake plenums, etc. Another reason I am drawn to the earlier cars or some of the hot rodded ones.

Well - another night of looking 1963..1973 porsche 911

[brammo]

Originally Posted by Scottc714

In my case I already had bright trim around the windows so it made sense to strip the bar as I loved the old school look anyway.

Its a pretty straight forward gig. lots of threads on this but in a nutshell:

Remove the weather stripping door to door around the targa bar.
Pull the rubber bead off the back of the bar where it meets the glass.
Remove all the sheet metal screws.

Remove the two nuts off the bolts on each side under the targa badges.
(Reach up under the rear wheel wells directly under the Targa badges and you can touch the bolts.)

Once all fasteners are removed you'll have to pry the bar cover loose due to the sealant mess and maybe give the bolts on the sides a little pop and itll come loose and off the car.

Remove the targa badges from the bar.

Drink a beer and clean up all the old black sealant mess on the frame.

Brush out the bar with aircraft stripper , wait 5-10 minutes and scrape with plastic putty knife. Paint comes off so easy its laughable.

Clean up with rags and hose off with water.

Sand to your desired finish (I dry sanded with 800/1000 and hit it with 0000 steel wool)
Polish to your desired finish while drinking another beer.

For me that was it for Saturday Probably 4-6 hours including picking up supplies.

Sunday, reverse process put it back together and re seal with black 3M weather stripping adhesive.

The end result is well worth the process.

Hmmm, this looks awesome. Is there a specific brand of beer that makes them come out this nice? I think it is interesting how Singer nickel plates his and makes them two vents/louvers just to mix it up. Great pics. thx.

[Matt Monson]

Brammo,

You need to buy Paternie's Redbook or Anderson's High Performance Handbook or both. As you expand you search to other years and generations they will prove invaluable.

They cover variations and changes year to year. Engine size. Gearbox. Wheel size. Color options and everything in between. And weird oddball stuff like the 1 year only 1974 targa hardtop. Or the more famous 1972 rear fender oil tank door.

Especially as you dip backwards into the long nose '73 and older cars there are just do many 1 or 2 year only features (including engines or type of injection) that we couldn't begin to lay them out for you here. And carry the Redbook with you on buys. It tells you engine serial number range and type and a ton if things to know whether the car is molested or modified. Often a seller won't have a COA to prove original things and you will have to decide on the fly if the car is complete and original enough to buy or something is so far wrong from original that you want to keep shopping.

[brammo]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

Brammo,

You need to buy Paternie's Redbook or Anderson's High Performance Handbook or both. As you expand you search to other years and generations they will prove invaluable.

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Matt - Thanks - Amazon is already picking them off the shelves!. That is what I am needing.

[andoni510]

Go with a '72 if you can find one. It has a lot of "one off's only" for this year model.

[brammo]

Originally Posted by andoni510

Go with a '72 if you can find one. It has a lot of "one off's only" for this year model.

Thanks for the idea - gorgeous car.

[brammo]

Originally Posted by pmax

A noble goal, driving them once a week but I think you will have a hard time sticking to it once the collection grows beyond one or two cars, which might be soon in your case, at your current acquisition rate with your evidently deep pockets (deeper than mine !).

No, I don't think so, pent up interest really, I tend to do things in bursts. My strategy changes too quickly, but the good news is I am always overly excited about something. Imagine the alternative..

I imagine that once I find this next early car, I will be spending more than I should and slow down a bit!

I have found that at least in my search I can start to find the scams, as I see a price that seems reasonable (too good to be true), then the person has quite a story about the car. I have found 3 over the last 5 days. You know markets are hot when the scammers focus on specific cars. I wish their was a way to sting them.

Onward and looking for that next 1963-1973. I am very intrigued by the hard top targa, the one or two pictures I have seen are very interesting.

[pmax]

What are you budgeting for the long hood ? A realistic budget can buy two later cars ! That makes it hard to justify in my mind.... Are they twice the driving fun ? Probably not, they are just different and lack the improvements and power of the later cars.. Sure they can be used investment vehicles but we buy them to drive, right ?

[brammo]

Originally Posted by pmax

What are you budgeting for the long hood ? A realistic budget can buy two later cars ! That makes it hard to justify in my mind.... Are they twice the driving fun ? Probably not, they are just different and lack the improvements and power of the later cars.. Sure they can be used investment vehicles but we buy them to drive, right ?

I think that is why I want more than one. I love a z8, it is great to drive and amazing to look at, but if I could afford a 507, I would have it and drive it once in a while. There is definitely art and "machine lust" to anything you love so much, regardless if there is something "better".

My 2 cents.