How to get a cheap 993

[Unobtanium-inc]

Just make sure it has a tree growing through it! Surprisingly it cranked up and ran, drove it on the trailer.
It's going to be my new autocross fun car.


---Adam

[Matt Monson]

Thats funny.

[christiandk]

Looks nice and organic. Does it have the books?

[Unobtanium-inc]

Originally Posted by christiandk

Looks nice and organic. Does it have the books?

I got a key and a title, and I was happy to get that. A friend is going to go through the car for me and by Spring it should be a lot of fun. With 993's hitting $50,000 I had given up hope on having one, but one found me.

[Rawknees'Turbo]

Originally Posted by christiandk

. Does it have the books?

Christian, I shudder to think what you do while flipping through the pages of the service booklets that you put such importance on!

[matt930s]

Nice find.

It sure would be nice if some of us working stiffs (not in the car and parts world) could land deals like you do.

MattR

[sugarwood]

Originally Posted by matt930s

Nice find.

It sure would be nice if some of us working stiffs (not in the car and parts world) could land deals like you do.

MattR

Maybe that's a blessing in disguise.

[Unobtanium-inc]

Originally Posted by matt930s

Nice find.

It sure would be nice if some of us working stiffs (not in the car and parts world) could land deals like you do.

MattR

Not a good week for the rest of the Porsche world, I'm headed down South tomorrow to load up 10 P-cars on a very large trailer. Most of the cars I find actually find me, they normally aren't advertised. Once something hits the internet, the gig is up, one of the small margin flippers like Gullwing or BHCC grabs it for more than I will pay. Of course those guys have an advantage over me, they give zero F*$KS what the Porsche community thinks and have no vested interest in it. I go to a lot of events and don't want to look over my shoulder the whole time so if I get burned on a car I normally have to eat it, while those guys will just pass on the burn.

[matt930s]

Originally Posted by sugarwood

Maybe that's a blessing in disguise.

Lol...touche....

My wife (not my internet wife-Ronnie) would agree!

MattR

[Rawknees'Turbo]

^^^

Phat, expect your PM box to fill up with hate-mail from MountainMan, the Danish Dangler and Deez, now!

[Unobtanium-inc]

After much work, the car is done, and it's a great car!

---Adam

[Alan A]

Nice.

[littleoldman]

Is it a story of inspiration? - hey guys, great deals are still out there!
Is it a story of “ha ha, I did it again”? Like all Adams other posts.

I guarantee honest Abe will eventually sell it to someone directly for substantial margin.

Great find Adam. Great story. Go get em!

[Unobtanium-inc]

Originally Posted by littleoldman

Is it a story of inspiration? - hey guys, great deals are still out there!
Is it a story of “ha ha, I did it again”? Like all Adams other posts.

I guarantee honest Abe will eventually sell it to someone directly for substantial margin.

Great find Adam. Great story. Go get em!

William can say this far better than me.

“O, beware, my lord, of jealousy;
It is the green-ey'd monster, which doth mock
The meat it feeds on.”


― William Shakespeare, Othello

[littleoldman]

No doubt
Jealousy makes a man weak. I’m not jealous per say, just annoyed like many others that you continue to separate cars from unknowing owners for well below market and way before a real individual interested party can become the owner.

So many stories of people dreaming to get into cars but are priced out. And you my friend are part of the reason prices are out of whack.

Imho

Quote - ME

[ficke]

Originally Posted by littleoldman

No doubt
Jealousy makes a man weak. I’m not jealous per say, just annoyed like many others that you continue to separate cars from unknowing owners for well below market and way before a real individual interested party can become the owner.

So many stories of people dreaming to get into cars but are priced out. And you my friend are part of the reason prices are out of whack.

Imho

Quote - ME

Or, he makes the cars available by doing the foot work that other do not know how to do or will not do.
Paying for that work is fair.

[Unobtanium-inc]

Originally Posted by littleoldman

No doubt
Jealousy makes a man weak. I’m not jealous per say, just annoyed like many others that you continue to separate cars from unknowing owners for well below market and way before a real individual interested party can become the owner.

So many stories of people dreaming to get into cars but are priced out. And you my friend are part of the reason prices are out of whack.

Imho

Quote - ME

Ok, just so we can paint the picture you're describing. I'm out there scouring the internet, snatching up all the cars long before the rest of you can get off work from your regular jobs and get them. You see me as swooping in as soon as a car is advertised, beating the guy up on price and running off with the car, while the rest of the "real" buyers are trying to get their ducks in a row. Then I double the price and laugh all the way to the bank. Is that what you're saying?
Well, if that is the picture you are trying to paint, it isn't a picture of me.
1. I haven't bought a car on the internet for years.
2. Many of the cars I buy are because someone calls me when they want to sell. Why is that? Because I'm known coast to coast as being fair and honest in my dealings and am not a "knee-caper" when it comes to buying. I get almost all my cars from word of mouth, which means people who have dealt with me, like dealing with me, tell their friends to deal with me. The good ol' boy network of Porsche.
3. The guys who sell to me are not "unknowing". They know the market but don't want to deal with the general public. Normally they have a collection of between 10-50 cars and want to quietly sell a few off. They don't want a million guys coming to their house taking pictures, they don't want money being wired from far off lands, they don't want to deal with crazy truckers showing up at midnight to pick up a car. They know if they call me I'll arrive when I say I will, will be honest about the car, and will take it away myself. But most importantly, I won't run my mouth about the other cars they have.
4. I don't price my cars, the buyers do. I sell most of my cars on ebay, where I put a very modest reserve on a car, the reserve is almost always met, and the car sells, for way over the reserve. So I'm not setting the prices, the market is. If you don't like capitalism, go start a commune and share a Porsche with someone.
5. The "many others" you are alluding to that I have soooooo annoyed must not be here, because the last time you ran your mouth here whining about what a bottom feeder I am, you got almost all negative response, with most people saying I do far more good to the community than harm.
6. The cars I buy are not advertised, are normally not even for sale, and I can guarantee no one knew they even existed. Many of them have not seen the light of day in decades
meaning if I didn't ferret out the long lost collection, covered in dust, it would have set there for another 20 years, meaning me digging cars out of the hands of guys who have been hoarding them for decades and putting them on the market is that many more projects that weren't available the day before, so that's more cars to go around, not less.

Bottom line, for some reason you don't like me, or the fact that I'm good at what I do. So much so that when I post about a car that is in my personal collection, a 993, you act as if it's all part of some twisted game. It isn't, it's about a car I found, that was buried and not for sale, that I restored and took out driving yesterday with my kids. Yet somehow you can turn even this car into something sinister. The cars that go into my personal collection rarely make it back out, the last time I sold a personal car was about 8 years ago, when my wife wanted a better house and I sold a 64SC Coupe to fatten up the down payment.

Get a life! Or at least quit hiding behind a screen name to be a keyboard tough guy. I must have missed you at the open house a few months ago.

Just look at these pics.
Do you think these cars were advertised? They weren't.
Do you think that dust is from a few years? It isn't, try decades.
Do you think that is a bunch of projects that are now being restored by guys who are happy to have the cars? Yes, they are all being restored by guys who are proud owners.

---Adam

[matt930s]

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-marketplace-discussion/952495-i-know-you-all-like-him.html

“He loves Adam, he loves Adam not....”


Lol..

MattR

[GRM1964]

Originally Posted by littleoldman

Is it a story of inspiration? - hey guys, great deals are still out there!
Is it a story of “ha ha, I did it again”? Like all Adams other posts.

I guarantee honest Abe will eventually sell it to someone directly for substantial margin.

Great find Adam. Great story. Go get em!

What is the problem?

[SalParadise]

Originally Posted by littleoldman

No doubt
Jealousy makes a man weak. I’m not jealous per say, just annoyed like many others that you continue to separate cars from unknowing owners for well below market and way before a real individual interested party can become the owner.

So many stories of people dreaming to get into cars but are priced out. And you my friend are part of the reason prices are out of whack.

Imho

Quote - ME

This is freaking hilarious. Sorry, but from the before photos I see a 993 that needs a s**t ton of work - thousands and thousands at the very least, and he 1) found the car, 2) bought the car, and 3) is still driving the car after putting in serious time and money. Priced out of what? Finding a car in that condition is hard work to get back and it was not for a quick flip.

Prices are out of whack because people pay. And people now pay a lot because they want to and can.

This is this. In this life there are poseurs who have no cred and there are people like Adam who has decided, at the last time I checked, to make a living at this and it's a very difficult living with many, many unknowns and pitfalls, not to mention dealing with people all the time who come from all different backgrounds.

My advice to you is to go pick on something like big pharmaceutical companies, oil companies, or other people who tend to control and put prices out of 'whack' as you say. While you're at it, please tell them that it's shameful that I had to spend $637 on my wifes epipen (two).

Looking at this thread, and Adams response, I'm surprised he even dignified it with comment. I just see a dude who buys stuff and sells it, and has the passion to boot.