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Why showcase the MSRP ?

Just wondering why sellers feel compelled to showcase the MSRP on older 991's, 996;s or 997's. The options from the window sticker are important, but the original MSRP is interesting but not valuable IMO, unless you are into calculating depreciation.

Otherwise, the market dictates the price. I am missing something?

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I think it has to do with often $25k and sometimes as much as $50k variations in how a car is trimmed. It helps to define perceived value since the cafeteria shopping style of recent years introduces a lot more variables than our old T, E, S models.
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Imo msrp is very important on newer cars.
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It'll help make comparisons when shopping. I would also like to see if the car depreciated or appreciated.
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Because they were freakin' a lot of money 17 years ago - like $70K for a base 996 coupe vs. $20K for a more pedestrian car like a fully loaded Honda Accord - ie. $50K difference.

For $70K in 2000 you could have bought a house in Florida or Arizona...

Someone on here had a pic of a 996TT that had a sticker of $186k...no joke. These were very expensive cars (and a bargain today if I may say so).
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My '99 base Boxster was a $55k car.
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My '99 base Boxster was a $55k car.
Wow! My 08 base Boxster was just under $56k.
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Wow! My 08 base Boxster was just under $56k.
Exactly to my point. Wax poetic about the MSRP, but really, there is no set depreciation schedule on any car 4+ years old car that makes the MSRP mean much.

If your $32K car was once $125K...what difference does it make whether it was $100k or $125K, it is still worth $32K.

Sorry, just one of those unanswered questions! Kinda of like, why don't people vacuum out dirt, leaves and trash from their cars before posting them for sale???
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Not seem to many, if any, new used cars that appreciate... GT3RS, 918, etc. excluded.
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Exactly to my point. Wax poetic about the MSRP, but really, there is no set depreciation schedule on any car 4+ years old car that makes the MSRP mean much.
Nobody is waxing poetic. A base Boxster when new was a $41k. You are basically saying that my car, with nearly 2 dozen options that cost $14K is worth the same as a plain jane no options car. That's just not true in the market. While the delta sure as hell isn't $14k today, it does make the difference if I were to sell. It's a $2-3K delta and money is money. I'm not going to sell you the car for $8k because you tell me that 1999 base Boxsters are $8k cars.
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"Waxing poetic"; I like that term.
COA's don't list options prices. In lieu of a Window Sticker, I see no harm in posting the MSRP's.
I also see no reason for trivial posts.
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When its a dealer a lot of times the system they use to publish to the internet automatically pushed out the original MSRP.
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Nobody is waxing poetic. A base Boxster when new was a $41k. You are basically saying that my car, with nearly 2 dozen options that cost $14K is worth the same as a plain jane no options car. That's just not true in the market. While the delta sure as hell isn't $14k today, it does make the difference if I were to sell. It's a $2-3K delta and money is money. I'm not going to sell you the car for $8k because you tell me that 1999 base Boxsters are $8k cars.
I am not saying a base is worth the same as a fully optioned car. While subtle, we are talking about the same thing. Options and condition matter more than MSRP. While More Options = higher MSRP, the MSRP by itself is rather meaningless for an older used car because depreciation is not straight-line and value is determined by many factors.
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I just see it as "look at what this car cost new & you're only paying X now". Just a sales tactic I feel, but mean no disrespect to those that show the MSRP.
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I agree with others who like to see MSRP. I use it as a base line when shopping. car A was xxx new, car B zzzz. More applicable to newer vehicles.
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In Excellence, I read an article about a new 911 Carrera S has a base price of about $100k. The test car with options was $140k! Was getting close to the base price of a Turbo.

I'd keep that window sticker for when it comes time to sell.
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I wonder what a base, stripped down to the bones with zero options, plain old Carrera (no S) is these days? I wonder if you can even buy one?

I'll go out on a limb to say that would be a great 10 year, DD beater.
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I wonder what a base, stripped down to the bones with zero options, plain old Carrera (no S) is these days? I wonder if you can even buy one?

I'll go out on a limb to say that would be a great 10 year, DD beater.
Right around $90k. And you can buy most anything except the special cars by going to a dealer and ordering it how you want it. They tend to be pretty well equipped on the dealer lots, but order one up and you can get a stripper.

I'd be game to find a 991 targa in a few years.

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