Another value thread: 88 turbo

[Catorce]

Like I said, stick it on BaT where people are still drinking the koolaid!

[93097004xx]

$75,000 now for fast sale. Hold on till spring and get closer to $90,000.

Don’t listen about the repaint.. these are no longer used cars and as collector cars 95% of all collector cars are fully repainted sometimes multiple times.

- These are not used cars
- These are not 911 sc’s or 911 carrera’s
- You need to be ready to pay over $100,000 for a original paint clean 930.

- Market is STRONG for nice 930s like the one above.

Do not list on BAT jokers tire kickers without the means to purchase a $100,000 vehicle for the most part.

Know that if you sell now 930s have bottomed and are climbing steadily. As far as air cooled porsches barring speedsters, 3.0 carreras, 356 a/pre a. There are no air cooled porsches that will appreciate as high or as rapidly as the 930.

It amazes me how these negative market folks keep romanticizing the days of cheap aircooled porsches..

The 930 never has or will fit into the thrift sport car hobby. NA 911s yes at one time but no longer. Nor was it ever intended to be a hobbyist car. Give it up.

https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/articles/2017/09/28/hvr-september-2017-bottom-25

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1979-PORSCHE-930-TURBO--201577

[turbo owner]

There is a $50k 79 930 barn find for sale on Pelican right now, check out cars for sale to see it.

[93097004xx]

Originally Posted by turbo owner

There is a $50k 79 930 barn find for sale on Pelican right now, check out cars for sale to see it.

Yes for about $50,000 this is the kind of project you can expect to find.. If your talking 930..


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/966281-f-s-1979-porsche-930-barn-find.html

[specialtyoneinc]

Originally Posted by 93097004xx

Yes for about $50,000 this is the kind of project you can expect to find.. If your talking 930..


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/966281-f-s-1979-porsche-930-barn-find.html

That car is scary. Been listed for 3 month.

[Mehoff]

Originally Posted by specialtyoneinc

That car is scary. Been listed for 3 month.

Originally Posted by 93097004xx

Yes for about $50,000 this is the kind of project you can expect to find.. If your talking 930..


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/966281-f-s-1979-porsche-930-barn-find.html

It's actually been listed numerous times for well over a year......but keep trotting out those "ask" prices as supporting market trades.

The 930 guys here are like Beetlejuice; say "under $100k" three times and they show up out of nowhere in an absolute tizzy.

Actual reality is good driver 930's (1979-88) are selling in the high $60's, great drivers are selling in the mid to high $70's with low mile examples jumping to the $80's, with viable collector cars blowing those prices away. There are always outliers too, of course.

The issue is these cars are trading quietly......you don't see people updating their ad with "sold for $30k under ask!!!", because ego.

[JMS935]

Originally Posted by turbo owner

There is a $50k 79 930 barn find for sale on Pelican right now, check out cars for sale to see it.

Are you implying that this hunk of junk is worth 50k?!? The seller is totally delusional if he thinks he’ll get anywhere even close to that for this car. Maybe if he had a matching pair he could get 50k for it, but even that might be wishful thinking.

[93097004xx]

Originally Posted by Mehoff

It's actually been listed numerous times for well over a year......but keep trotting out those "ask" prices as supporting market trades.



The 930 guys here are like Beetlejuice; say "under $100k" three times and they show up out of nowhere in an absolute tizzy.



Actual reality is good driver 930's (1979-88) are selling in the high $60's, great drivers are selling in the mid to high $70's with low mile examples jumping to the $80's, with viable collector cars blowing those prices away. There are always outliers too, of course.



The issue is these cars are trading quietly......you don't see people updating their ad with "sold for $30k under ask!!!", because ego.

I don’t see this and all I do is scan for sale and auction results.

Have there been some rougher 930s sold for less than asking? Yes

However a clean sub 50,000 mile 930 is a and always will be a $100,000 car.

I guess if you are referring to 120,000 mile cars that have not been mechanically maintained that are modded and abused then yes those can be had for less.

The car above is $75,000 all day long Id say even $85,000 with factory wheels.

With all the $100,000 plus 930 sales this year why are we still have this conversation..

With all the $200,000 930 sales this year why are we still having this conversation..











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[msort81]

The market is flat for Porsches including 930's across the board.

Even a cursory look at the cars listed on PP F/S, Rennlist, the Samba, and many more sites show lots of the speculators who got caught up in the dizzying market of a couple of years ago and are now looking to get out, asking prices that they are just not going to get.

Sure there is a lot of sub par dealer trash kicking around, but even the prized G50 cars are down in both Turbocharged and N/A models. The reality of the market can clearly be seen by studying the listings from sites where there is a passion for these cars, not from results out of BJ Auction crowd, where folks get whipped up drinking lite beer and huffing Gas Monkey perfume.

OP You might do marginally better in the spring, but even the preferred colors that used to command a premium are not doing well. In spite of what auction sites with a vested interest or insurance valuations might say. I agree that BAT would be a good option for you, provided you can work the Q&A to your advantage, and respond in a timely fashion to squash some of the relentless negativity. GLWTS

[turbo owner]

Originally Posted by JMS935

Are you implying that this hunk of junk is worth 50k?!? The seller is totally delusional if he thinks he’ll get anywhere even close to that for this car. Maybe if he had a matching pair he could get 50k for it, but even that might be wishful thinking.

Could you even afford it at 1/2 the ask?

[JMS935]

Originally Posted by turbo owner

Could you even afford it at 1/2 the ask?

Are you asking me if I can afford to spend 25k on a car? Or if I’d be willing to spend 25k on this car?

[msort81]

Originally Posted by turbo owner

Could you even afford it at 1/2 the ask?

What's that got to do with the OP's question ? Funny how the 930 peanut gallery jump in at any mention of what is market reality.

I'd love to see confirmation of all these silent $200k $100k 930 sales. This "truly collectible porsche" has been for sale since January

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/943788-1979-porsche-930-turbo-silver-metallic-black-27-600-miles-2-owner.html

[93097004xx]

Originally Posted by turbo owner

Could you even afford it at 1/2 the ask?

$75,000 to $100,000 930 with a clean title restored.

The branded title hurts.

A clean 930 tub $20,000
That engine as sits $10,000
The transmission $7000
The brakes $4000
The suspension $2500





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[Mehoff]

Originally Posted by 93097004xx

I don’t see this and all I do is scan for sale and auction results.

Have there been some rougher 930s sold for less than asking? Yes

However a clean sub 50,000 mile 930 is a and always will be a $100,000 car.

I guess if you are referring to 120,000 mile cars that have not been mechanically maintained that are modded and abused then yes those can be had for less.

The car above is $75,000 all day long Id say even $85,000 with factory wheels.

With all the $100,000 plus 930 sales this year why are we still have this conversation..

With all the $200,000 930 sales this year why are we still having this conversation..



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[JMS935]

Originally Posted by 93097004xx

$75,000 to $100,000 930 with a clean title restored.

The branded title hurts.

A clean 930 tub $20,000
That engine as sits $10,000
The transmission $7000
The brakes $4000
The suspension $2500

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Exactly my point...If this car was fully restored, AND had a clean title, it might be worth 100k if it were a really good restoration. But the PROBLEM with this car is that it’d still have a salvage title, which would make it worth far less. And with the cost to restore this car as it sits in its current condition, it only holds any value at all in parting it out. Which is exactly why the car has sat untouched since 1981, cause it makes no financial sense to restore it - not back then or even now. Offering it as a restoration project is nothing anyone would consider with any common sense, which is why it’ll languish unsold forever until the owner finally decides to either part it out himself, drastically lower the asking price, or sell it to a Porsche dismantler for them to part it out.

Sorry for getting off topic from the original OP’s post...

[Rawknees'Turbo]

Originally Posted by msort81

. . . Funny how the 930 peanut gallery jump in at any mention of what is market reality . . .

As a long-time 930 owner, and non-q-tipper, I wish the market reality was similar to 2005-2006 (when I bought mine), as I do not get a puffed-chest-chub over the high prices (I consider them full dumbassery - way too much money for not enough car, especially in stock trim), and think that paying even a higher "Porsche tax" (parts, insurance, etc) sucks royally.

[93097004xx]

Originally Posted by Mehoff

Smoke your pipe all you want.

The OP will get over $75,000 for his 930.
It will sell fast as well at that price.


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[specialtyoneinc]

Originally Posted by Mehoff

It's actually been listed numerous times for well over a year......but keep trotting out those "ask" prices as supporting market trades.

The 930 guys here are like Beetlejuice; say "under $100k" three times and they show up out of nowhere in an absolute tizzy.

Actual reality is good driver 930's (1979-88) are selling in the high $60's, great drivers are selling in the mid to high $70's with low mile examples jumping to the $80's, with viable collector cars blowing those prices away. There are always outliers too, of course.

The issue is these cars are trading quietly......you don't see people updating their ad with "sold for $30k under ask!!!", because ego.

Hehe. You must admit they are entertaining though.

[93097004xx]

Sold 930s this week ebay

https://m.ebay.com/itm/1986-Porsche-911-Carrera/322839429708?epid=74003827&hash=item4b2abac24c%3Ag %3ADtUAAOSwnTdZ6kgT&_trkparms=pageci%253A8af9b60f-be88-11e7-aae0-74dbd180966d%257Cparentrq%253A747df01715f0aa47437e 1004fffb00df%257Ciid%253A15#vi__app-cvip-panel

https://m.ebay.com/itm/1978-Porsche-930/292296400076?hash=item440e391ccc%3Ag%3AwSMAAOSwmbl Z27bP&_trkparms=pageci%253A8af9b60f-be88-11e7-aae0-74dbd180966d%257Cparentrq%253A747df01715f0aa47437e 1004fffb00df%257Ciid%253A19#vi__app-cvip-panel

Auction houses

https://www.bonhams.com/search/?q=Porsche%20930&main_index_key=lot#/q0=Porsche%2520930&MR0_display=search&m0=0?q=Porsc he%20930

https://www.goodingco.com/?s=porsche+930

What is a nice clean driver 930?

This is to me a what I think of when it comes to clean driver 930s

https://m.ebay.com/itm/1979-Porsche-930/162718398846?hash=item25e2c5b97e%3Ag%3AktQAAOSwhqh Z6Jfy&_trkparms=pageci%253Aac4465ae-be89-11e7-93cf-74dbd18019e9%257Cparentrq%253A748557f515f0a9e4b52a 44f2fffb33df%257Ciid%253A20




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[gearby]

Originally Posted by 93097004xx

$75,000 now for fast sale. Hold on till spring for closer to 90K.
Don’t listen about the repaint.. these are no longer used cars and as collector cars 95% of all collector cars are fully repainted sometimes multiple times.

- These are not used cars
- These are not 911 sc’s or 911 carrera’s
- You need to be ready to pay over $100,000 for a original paint clean 930.

So repainted it's worth 75K to 90K. Original paint is 100K. Thanks for verifying everything I said about the repaint.