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88 Club Sport 06-13-2018 04:00 PM

Value of a '74 with a 3.2
 
So, a buddy bought a '74 911 years ago and started coming out to the track with me. Its a 2 owner (black) car and he seldom drives it now so I was thinking about talking to him to see if he wants it out of the garage.

Details:

- 2 owner.....140k ish miles on the tub
- Faded paint....needs a repaint
- Some rust in the front fenders (he has 2 rust free ones), I am sure there is more and I need to budget for that!
- He got tired of the 2.7 performance on the track so I found a local 3.2 on CL and he had it professionally installed.....good compression/leakdown 5 years ago, maybe driven 5k miles since.
- He has the original 2.7.
- 4 7x16's but it will need tires
- Suspension was refreshed for the track years ago....big bars / tarrett bushings etc. Too big for the street. I'd need to soften her.
- Ok interior but DE type seats. Cannot remember if he has the original seats. I'd need to do somthing. No 3 points only 6 pt DE belts.

So, what we have is a '74 with a unknown mileage 3.2 that is stock body that needs some rust repair and a repaint.

Whats it worth these days? I don't really "need" another Porsche but the thought of a stock looking '74 with a 3.2 (7:31 R&P) has me interested in another project.

juanbenae 06-13-2018 04:19 PM

my crystal ball says we need some pictures. could be highly desired. with the original motor included it could be restored if that's yir game. if a slick lid crank window light weight 74 with a 3.2 & questionable interior it sounds like you could be 1/2 way to a street, dare I say outlaw/hotrod candidate!!

or buy it for whatever, backdate it (narrow bodied+) sell if on BAT for 140k.

88 Club Sport 06-13-2018 04:33 PM

I can get pics....dog sitting in a few weeks but I don't think they will influence one much. I have thought about hot rod/ back date but my gut says keep this one stock with the 3.2 since many have been bastarized. I don't like black though :(

nathanbs 06-13-2018 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by juanbenae (Post 10072630)
my crystal ball says we need some pictures. could be highly desired. with the original motor included it could be restored if that's yir game. if a slick lid crank window light weight 74 with a 3.2 & questionable interior it sounds like you could be 1/2 way to a street, dare I say outlaw/hotrod candidate!!

or buy it for whatever, backdate it (narrow bodied+) sell if on BAT for 140k.

My understanding is that a ‘74 coupe needed the added weight of power windows to meet US DOT. This may have been a carrera only issue. The heavier targa roof allowed for lighter manual windows

dwelle 06-13-2018 06:29 PM

my '74 coupe has manual windows...

nathanbs 06-13-2018 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dwelle (Post 10072764)
my '74 coupe has manual windows...

Lol well there goes that. Maybe it’s a carrera thing. Is it a carrera? I think the carreras are slightly lighter?

SalParadise 06-14-2018 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by nathanbs (Post 10072694)
My understanding is that a ‘74 coupe needed the added weight of power windows to meet US DOT. This may have been a carrera only issue. The heavier targa roof allowed for lighter manual windows

My regular 911 (not S) '74 had manual windows. I've never seen a '74 regular or S with electric windows. The DOT never had any weight requirements. A US '74 Triumph Spitfire weighed 1750 pounds...

nathanbs 06-14-2018 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SalParadise (Post 10073031)
My regular 911 (not S) '74 had manual windows. I've never seen a '74 regular or S with electric windows. The DOT never had any weight requirements. A US '74 Triumph Spitfire weighed 1750 pounds...

Weird I’ll have to look for it. Could be completely wrong. It was the explanation I remember reading why my 74 US Carrera targa had manual windows and not power like seemingly all of the Carrera coupes.

1979-930 06-14-2018 06:01 AM

Maybe the Targa top and power windows were too much weight for the 2.7. :D

Without pics and seeing it. I'd say $25-28 is a deal for you. $28-32 is fair. He'd probably get $40 on BAT

ficke 06-14-2018 06:07 AM

20-25k

88 Club Sport 06-14-2018 10:25 AM

Thanks 1979-930 and ficke........ I was thinking $20 - 25 so I am at least in the ball park albeit at the low end. Crazy to think it could get $40k especially give the unknown rust and paint needed.

I still remember the days when that car would be $7500 :) In fact my '78 SC that had a 85 3.2 in it was only $5k but that was 11 years ago.

Matt Monson 06-14-2018 11:01 AM

I'll agree with the $25k range. If it had nice paint and decent interior it would be $5-10K more or higher.

1979-930 06-14-2018 01:20 PM

^^^ We're supposed to be pumping up the value of 74's Matt :rolleyes: Get with the program.:D

eastbay 06-14-2018 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 1979-930 (Post 10073092)
Maybe the Targa top and power windows were too much weight for the 2.7. :D

Without pics and seeing it. I'd say $25-28 is a deal for you. $28-32 is fair. He'd probably get $40 on BAT

I think these numbers are right on. Buy for less and he is a better friend than you. Spare engine is a $5k bump alone.

ficke 06-14-2018 03:31 PM

As a price point.
I tired to sell this car for a friend, http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/996241-1977-911s-targa.html
Similar to the car you described , mid year with good later engine, except this car has a glass out paint job with no rust.
Bidding on bring a trailer only went to 24K and Ebay went to 24.5K

No bites from ad on pelican at $31K

Matt Monson 06-14-2018 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ficke (Post 10073786)
As a price point.
I tired to sell this car for a friend, http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/996241-1977-911s-targa.html
Similar to the car you described , mid year with good later engine, except this car has a glass out paint job with no rust.
Bidding on bring a trailer only went to 24K and Ebay went to 24.5K

No bites from ad on pelican at $31K

Except 74 is 50 state smog exempt and both here and CA it needs testing. That’s good for a 10-20% bump on a 74.

Off topic but I liked that 77. If I had got off my arse and sold my 86 by now i might have bought it.

ficke 06-14-2018 03:58 PM

Yup, good point on the smog.
If I had not tried to sell this car recently I would say Derrick estimate is right on.

The market changes monthly.
The 77 is a good car, I really do not want it but I will buy it if I can not find someone else to buy it.
Buy it Matt.

1979-930 06-14-2018 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Monson (Post 10073793)
Except 74 is 50 state smog exempt and both here and CA it needs testing. That’s good for a 10-20% bump on a 74.



Off topic but I liked that 77. If I had got off my arse and sold my 86 by now i might have bought it.



You need to save your money for that turbo you want.


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Matt Monson 06-14-2018 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 1979-930 (Post 10073838)
You need to save your money for that turbo you want.


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I’m gonna be distracted for a while. I finally get my Cayman back from Cerbelli tomorrow. Put a short ring and pinion in too. I will drive it for a few weeks then work on getting the sequential into it. I hope to drive it to Laguna for rennsport, with sequential.

SalParadise 06-14-2018 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ficke (Post 10073786)
As a price point.
I tired to sell this car for a friend, http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/996241-1977-911s-targa.html
Similar to the car you described , mid year with good later engine, except this car has a glass out paint job with no rust.
Bidding on bring a trailer only went to 24K and Ebay went to 24.5K

No bites from ad on pelican at $31K

There is a disparity between any '76/'77 and '74/'75. As someone who owns a '75, which used to be the least desirable 911 ever, I believe this dubious distinction has been taken by a '77, which to many doesn't hold any advantage whatsoever - the advantage of any '74/'75 being emissions in most states (as most know).

That is one clean '77. But at even at $24K (which is probably market correct and realistic in most peoples' minds), no one seems to care - not to mention, at all, at $31K.


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