Kremer 935 on ebay

tonypeoni · 02-08-2008, 04:06 PM

This is just the car to show up in to your local PCA event. Their stiff upper lips will probably crack

. Yeah this one would upset both the early 911 prudes as well as the late model phony rich types. Anyways being a product of the 80s I grew up with these cars. I really miss these make no excuses balls to the wall Porsches.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1987-porshe-930-kremer-turbo-k2-not-a-kit_W0QQitemZ260208536093QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item2 60208536093

slow&rusty · 02-08-2008, 04:40 PM

Crappy pictures...horrible description...!

Can be run up to 1.3bar....GULP!

Interestingly looks like a stock muffler...

Yasin

copbait73 · copbait73's Garage

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Originally Posted by slow&rusty

Crappy pictures...horrible description...!

Can be run up to 1.3bar....GULP!

Interestingly looks like a stock muffler...

Yasin

Seat shows a lot of wear for 25K miles, but it wouldn't be a true gray market car if the mileage was accurate.
Maybe just a really large guy owned it.
I prefer the shovel spoiler with low covered headlights.

pkracer21j · 02-08-2008, 05:33 PM

well, if the Kremer street cars can run 1.3 bar, then I don't see why everyone is scared to go over1 bar. they've been doing it since the 70's.

Jeff Alton · 02-08-2008, 06:39 PM

I am building wheels for a customer right now with one of those. But his has a 933TT motor with over 600hp......

Interesting cars....

Cheers

EuroShark · 02-10-2008, 03:13 PM

Nice looking car.

sand_man · 02-11-2008, 10:03 AM

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which brings us to the business at hand, a kremer k2 turbo with 395 bhp on tap, a top speed of nearly190 mph,0 to 100 times of less than 8 seconds

For real????

VZ935 · VZ935's Garage

First off that is not a 935 ... I think the car is cool but I hope they really worked that CIS over to run the 1.3 bars of boom ....I mean boost

pkracer21j · 02-11-2008, 06:01 PM

granted its not a true mfi flat fan race 35, but its still a rare car in some terms, or to be blunt about it, its a cut up plastic 930 styled after the 935. lol. I like it either way.

VZ935 · VZ935's Garage

Don't get me wrong , I do not mean to sound as though I am knocking the car . I was just saying it is not a 935 .

I think if it was dropped a few inches the stance would really bring the car around .

RarlyL8 · RarlyL8's Garage

From the description it is simply a Kremer modified 930. It is what it is. Those were cool cars in the day.

I'd quess that you can run 1.3 bar for a short time. Engine life will be greatly reduced. That is why most folks don't venture past 1.0bar.

0-100mph can probably be done in < 8 seconds using 400WHP with the right driver abusing the clutch. I don't believe it could be done with 400CHP.

sand_man · 02-12-2008, 05:28 AM

Maybe so on the 8 sec 0 to 100 time, but that 190 MPH claim on just shy of 400 HP seems like a stretch to me. To me, that's starting to approach Yellow Bird territory (although still distant), and that car had some serious machinery (considering the era)! Ah screw it, what the hell do I know, maybe this fucher lives up to the hype...

WERK I · WERK I's Garage

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Originally Posted by copbait73

Seat shows a lot of wear for 25K miles, but it wouldn't be a true gray market car if the mileage was accurate..........

Where do you come up with this kind of statement? My '85 Special Wishes 930 was imported into the U.S. in 1985 directly from the factory and then Federalized. Why would the mileage represented on the odometer be inaccurate?
Grey market cars are not any worse than any other car that is over 20 years old. They all need a thorough going over before buying. This "grey market" myth may have been accurate 20 years ago, but I think the field has already been weeded out.

pkracer21j · 02-12-2008, 07:47 AM

I think he was acknowledging the wear on the drivers seat bolster is a lot for 25k. I think the performance numbers could be accurate because yellowbird was still an all steel 911 with the stock fenders. the dp cars weigh in around 2200-2300 lbs if I remember correctly. so the reduced weight and better aerodynamics of the slantnose add up. I know the 935's came in at just over 2000lbs race ready. VZ935 could you verify this?

les_garten · 02-12-2008, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by pkracer21j

I think he was acknowledging the wear on the drivers seat bolster is a lot for 25k. I think the performance numbers could be accurate because yellowbird was still an all steel 911 with the stock fenders. the dp cars weigh in around 2200-2300 lbs if I remember correctly. so the reduced weight and better aerodynamics of the slantnose add up. I know the 935's came in at just over 2000lbs race ready. VZ935 could you verify this?

I have an '85 930. It had aftermarket Recaro's when I bought it with 22,000 on the clock. The driver's bolster looked just like that. The Sport seat bolsters really take a beating because they stick out so much more than the regular seats. In my "Limited" experience, you can get that much wear in that particular spot on the seats in 25K miles.

I pulled out the Recaro's, stripped and redyed them and you couldn't tell the scuff's were there.

Les

gumba · 02-12-2008, 08:06 AM

Though not a 935, they were marketed by DP as DP935's. Not sure what the difference between the Kremer & DP was since DP did the body work for Kremer. The DP photo gallery page shows the same body work, except the 3rd light mounting in the tail. I have photos showing the same i/c with DP & Kremer logos.
I asked the seller for a copy of the '87 article, maybe he just quoted the article.
Here is a link to a 1984 Car & Driver article on a DP. Weight 2900 lbs., top speed 160. There are a few other articles on the site if you can read Swedish or German.
http://www.dp935registry.com/index.php?page=text&id=caranddriver

sand_man · 08:12 AM

Okay...[[flame suit on]]...[[climbing to the highest limb I can find]]...THAT car as it's listed in the ad with CIS, 3.3L, and ONE basic K27 turbo, will NOT do 190!

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to hide behind the anonymity, that is the interweb....

sand_man · 02-12-2008, 08:10 AM

Unless of course this serious speed is achieved via gearing???

RarlyL8 · RarlyL8's Garage

Don't get too riled up Sandy, the car IS on e-bay after all. Not necessarily known for their truth in advertising policy.

sand_man · 02-12-2008, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by RarlyL8

Don't get too riled up Sandy, the car IS on e-bay after all. Not necessarily known for their truth in advertising policy.

Thanks for talking me off the ledge Rarly! Sheesh, what came over me? Did I mention that I gave up coffee for lent?