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930 handling problem under acceleration
I take my car for 1 hour fast driving run as is so dry today (my first dry ran with mu new 930 !) so like to have some fun.
I found that under acceleration my car like to slightly move left especialy when I accelerate from 85 -90 mph up. I checked all tire pressure and front is 2.05 bar (30 psi) rear left 2.95 (42.5 psi) right 2.75 (40 psi) so 5% difference. Question it cold be by this difference or I should to check any other thing? I have LSD (40%) and -1.0 camber front and 1.5 camber rear. From other site it accelerate like beast....like it!
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Do you know if its been aligned lately, these cars are very sensitive to being out of alignment.
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I'd fix the air then if it's still there, check your alignment on all 4 wheels..
If that doesn't work, try a fat girl in the passenger seat. Also Where are you ?? in the states cars tend to move slightly to the right due to road slope..
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I have made alignment week ago. All factory spec exclude camber that I move negative as mention in first post. I will see what happen with add pressure in right tire.We have not as perfect roads as in germany but I proof my car on Highway so it is not slope issue. With slop it turn right or left depends od slop...
But seriously will see what happen when I will add air. I will check ride high both side too as I didn't do that during alignment process. ![]()
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I have had a similar sensation due to underinflated tires. Driver's side rear tends to loose a little each week. I once let it get down to the mid-30s, and could feel a strong yaw while accelerating. Airing back up to 44 psi made the handling under acceleration come back to neutral. Don't know if just a couple psi loss would do the same, but it's pretty cheap to try that fix first, isn't it?
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What type of tires are you using. The tire pressure seems pretty high.
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I wonder if your limited slip would enhance the difference between tire pressure? Your right rear is softer and would hook up better so the limited slip transmits more power to that side?
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I am going on 225x45 and 255x40 on 17". I find morning that I have rear and front high (counting lip fender to ground) 25" all around so I need to up front end by 0.5" correct? But that could not be my issue of left moving I think so, or it could?
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You can post some pictures of your car and show us the ride height. We can give you an idea if it looks good. The ride height probably has nothing to do with your car pulling to one side. Last edited by DDDD; 02-09-2009 at 06:15 AM.. |
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The recommended tire pressure is 29 front & 34 rear, cold. I run 31 front and 34 rear. Your tire pressure can increase 6-10+ lbs depending how hot they get.
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Stock tires, for the 930, like a pretty high rear psi...which always surprised me. I think it's because the factory intended those pressures to accomodate high speed driving, as well as to create a little more front bias in the weight distribution, thus reducing the oversteer tendency.
Curious, here's what Firestone has to say (I'm sure their data base comes straight from Porsche): 1987 Porsche 911 Turbo Front / Rear / Both Size Speed Rating Front Inflation (PSI) Rear Inflation (PSI) Standard / Optional Front 205/55VR16 V 29 N/A S Rear 245/45VR16 V N/A 43 S I personally run 32 and 42, front/rear respectively.
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Where did you get those numbers? The owners manuals for '73 S and '79 930 both spec out 29 front and 34 rear. Regardless of what tire your using Porsche seems to spec out a 5 lb. front/rear pressure difference. Maybe the factory spec is different for the later 930's. I would confirm that with the owners manual. A 10 lb. front/rear difference would have a noticeable impact on how the car handled.
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So I add air and... is better only little move under heavy acceleration (high boost) but acceptable. So I have 29 psi front and 43 psi rear just like sticker show. I also go on 0.4" up with front suspension set up. ( I was to low front and about 0.5" different between left and right side) Tomorrow will proof lower pressure in tires let say 29 and 38 psi.
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Check your suspension points to be sure nothing is broken, also check for dragging brakes on the left side.
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If your jacking up the corners, you may want to get it corner balanced. Going by height alone is a guesstimate at best.
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Torsion bars and sway bars could be off a click allowing the car to lean/rise more one side to the other...
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Re-check your toe at the rear using strings. Trust, but verify.
When I first got my car, it pulled hard to the right under acceleration and to the left on a downshift. Diagnosis:
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if its only while accelerating id have your lsd checked....when they go bad the car will torque steer
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